A slightly unhinged calculator fact: in the golden era of electronic calculators, some Japanese shopkeepers were reluctant to trust the newfangled tool, so Sharp made a line of combination calculator / abacus devices.

Here's a photo, next to some other stuff I own.

@lcamtuf whoa, could you control the calculator with the abacus? or no

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Wow, those are super cool looking and historically interesting!

(Heart rate increases, desperately avoids eBay for the next week)

@lcamtuf what is the equivalent of this to all this A.I. crap we're being peddled?

@lcamtuf There are many Soroban trainers out there to this day, including phone apps :) They take a lot of practice to use.

BTW, have you seen the Otis King cylindrical slide rule? They are very pretty - https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=otis+king+cylidrical+slide+rule

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@lcamtuf What's this "Lift" gadget on the top-right?
@lcamtuf also fun fact they still have abacus after schools where kids here can go to learn it. I know this because my kids friend got in trouble for skipping it to play video games.
@lcamtuf given a choice of these two I'd still stick with mental arithmetic for most summing in the shopkeeper range. As a child the most impressive things I knew about adults included shopkeepers being able to perform running summations of indefinite length in their heads without error. At school in the UK we were taught how to do that. In pounds, shillings and pence. Decimalization came and made that much easier.

@lcamtuf Βy the time I reached adulthood, mental arithmetic was no longer considered a necessary skill. Electronic calculators made it redundant.

But mental arithmetic is forever. Like riding a bike. Some of us have superpowers.

@lcamtuf the pen shaped one is amazing.
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Now are expected to trust blackbox AI's , mibbes the shopkeepers were onto something.

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I have never seen those and now I'm browsing them on ebay, seem about US$50. Probably more than I want to spend on this novelty. But I was amused at this listing's description of a 9v.

@elithebearded

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They are in many smoke detectors, I'd hope they'd be a little familiar with them.
I do remember having a pair of Radio shack walkie talkies and constantly needing "transistor batteries"

@Asbestos @lcamtuf

The last I have purchased (over last ~12 years) all have non-replacable batteries. Only consumer electronics I have left using those is the garage door opener. Well *modern* consumer electronics. I do have a reel-to-reel tape recorder that takes C cells for motors and a "transistor" battery for the "six transistor" operation.

@lcamtuf If you haven't seen it, you might enjoy Empire of the Sum: The Rise and Reign of the Pocket Calculator by Keith Houston.

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Given what calculators were like in that era, I wonder how many people noticed.

@lcamtuf This looks so much like a @NanoRaptor creation.
@lcamtuf i dont even know how to use an abacus
@lcamtuf 👀 how do you enter numbers on that red LED pen / calculator? is it like the old T9 system where you press until the number / function you want appears?

@lcamtuf I want one of these 🥺

(So that I can stop trusting calculators too, hehe)

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This seems like the sort of thing that @kyle would enjoy ☺

@lcamtuf nice! I have my dad's old Addiator around somewhere.
@lcamtuf wtf that e-abacus just slapped my ass and called me “champ”?????
@lcamtuf I was reading a new translation of a classic 1950s Japanese detective novel recently, and our detective has to visit a remote village, where a possible witness is a master maker of hand-crafted abacuses, and he is delighted to take one home for his wife to do the household accounts on. Not something you'd get in a modern novel, I suspect, it was kind of charming.
@lcamtuf RIP Nanoraptor’s mentions xD