-rbJul 1
Dave Spector

In 1934 the Nazis ended birthright citizen ship in Germany.

Jews, Roma, Black Germans, communists, trade unionists, and others were stripped of citizenship entirely. Their assets stolen and they were rounded up, they were thrown into vans by government agents and disappeared.

Seems familiar somehow. Remind me — what happened next?

Meanwhile, right now, in America….

DOJ announces plans to prioritize cases to revoke citizenship
https://www.npr.org/2025/06/30/nx-s1-5445398/denaturalization-trump-immigration-enforcement

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Show threadRené FouquetJun 30
@Dhmspector Where did you get the information that the Nazis abolished Jus Soli? The “Reichs- und Staatsangehörigkeitsgesetz (RuStAG)” of 1914 stipulated that only Jus Sanuinis is valid for the German Reich. So there was nothing for the Nazis to abolish. What they did abolish in 1934 was the “Länderstaatsangehörigkeit”, which was a leftover from the German Empire, but totally unrelated to the other discriminating laws of the Nazis.
Show threadEdelruth In The Wrong TimelineJun 30

@Dhmspector

Sometimes learning things I did not previously know does not bring me joy.

Show threadTor LillqvistJun 30

@Dhmspector I very much doubt that Germany had US style birthright citizenship even before 1934, that just being born in Germany, regardless of the citizenship of your parents, would have given you citizenship.

(Note: I am not doubting at all that the Nazis removed citizenship from lots of people.)

Show threadBenjamin BraatzJun 30

@tml @Dhmspector You are correct. Germany never had jus soli, only has a limited form of it (children with at least one parent being a permanent, legal resident for five years) since 2000.

The Nazis only introduced a German citizenship in 1934. Before that there were mainly the citizenships of the states/Länder, not a citizenship of Germany as a whole. They did their racist and antisemitic changes to it a year later in 1935.

Nevertheless, even if parallels are not one-to-one, they are effing scary.

Show threadUlrich HegemannJun 30

@tml @Dhmspector Citizenship was regulated in 1913 by the following law:
Nationality in a state is acquired

by birth (section 4),

by legitimacy (section 5),

by marriage (section 6),

for a German by admission (sections 7, 14, 16),

for a foreigner by naturalisation (sections 8 to 16).

http://www.documentarchiv.de/ksr/1913/reichs-staatsangehoerigkeitsgesetz.html

documentArchiv.de - Reichs- und Staatsangehörigkeitsgesetz (22.07.1913)

documentArchiv.de - Reichs- und Staatsangehörigkeitsgesetz (22.07.1913)

Show threadRainerJun 30

@Dhmspector
Yes, well: the past is never past.

And as Bertolt Brecht wrote: “The womb from which this came is still fertile.”

#BertholtBrecht

Show threadDave SpectorJun 30

@photogramm

Reminds me of a Faulkner quote:

“The past is never dead. It’s not even past.” — William Faulkner

Show threadDamper 🇨🇦Jun 30

@Dhmspector It’s interesting they are going after a child pornographer, as it has great propaganda value in their favour to justify this action. After all, who would want to be on the side of defending that type of person?

If successful it will set a precedent, which can then be used for lesser offences.

Also, if they’re successful, this person will be stateless, so I suppose they would be a good candidate for CECOT in El Salvador…

Show threadDave SpectorJun 30
@ADMP to further your point — they’ll also get to paint every crime they deem worthy of denaturalization as being on par with being a child pornographer.
Show threadDamper 🇨🇦Jun 30
@Dhmspector Exactly. The truth doesn’t matter in this situation, just the emotion it evokes.
Show threadRae PattersonJun 30

@Dhmspector

Further regulations in 1940 automatically removed state citizenship from individuals who became domiciled abroad; Nazi concentration camps were included in the definition of "abroad".

From Wikipedia

Show threadRobin BartonJun 30
@Dhmspector It is a dark and murky current carrying the usa to strange and foreboding territory
Show threadToni AittoniemiJun 30

@Dhmspector it took less than 4 years for the annexations of foreign countries to start, and 5 years for a world war to occur.

Tik-tok.

Show threadHansJul 1

@Dhmspector
Es wiederholt sich!

Grosser Gott:
Erbarme dich.

Show threadJustSayingJul 1
@Dhmspector well before the something next you're likely thinking of the German Govt voted themselves out of existence.
Show threadDave SpectorJul 1
@ArrestJK and didn’t the US Congress and courts just do the same be ceding all their authority to Trump?
Show threadJustSayingJul 1
@Dhmspector In effect, but yet to (but likely soon) vote themselves and their paychecks out of existence.
Show threadKrist van BesienJul 1
@Dhmspector not to pick a nit, but Germany never had birtright citizenship. It still hasn't, just like most European countries.
What the Nazis did was jsut strip Jews of their citizenship by decree.
Show threadJason Anthony GuyJul 1

@Dhmspector

1. Use admitted child pornographer as the “test case”—no one defends the “indefensible”.

2. Declare any crime—right down to parking tickets and jaywalking—as reasons to denaturalize.

3. Strip citizenship at will.

Show threadDave SpectorJul 1
@JasonAnthonyGuy yeah, pretty much. 🫠
Show threadsatireJul 2
@Dhmspector you don’t need a time travel machine to deal with one hitler at a time when