Tim Hergert
USB Type-Steve 
@cjust "Can't we just do this all in Discord on our phones?"
Nick Selby 
ity [unit X-69]@cjust @USBTypeSteve if someone sends me tiktok or youtube shorts, I will ignore them
Sincirely, GenZ.
@cjust @USBTypeSteve I grew up in the age of 2-4 hour long YouTube documentaries, YouTube shorts makes me cry
Cat@ity @cjust @USBTypeSteve youtubes used to top out at 10 mins so to me feature-length youtubes are asking a lot
youtube shorts want to be vines
Washington Irving@catmisgivings @ity @cjust @USBTypeSteve Shorts have place. I've watched plenty of "how to" shorts. E.g. how to repair smtng on a car, how to find smtng in a game etc. And I am 50 , grew up with an Atari 65 E, Total COMMANDER, 1 needle printer and BASIC π And sometimes I do succumb to brainrot shorts too π
@WashingtonIrving @ity @cjust @USBTypeSteve I'm good with long-form repair videos. Some of the best shorts I've seen are by Dan Toomey @GoodWorkMB and the funny US/France cultural difference videos @royaventurera
@catmisgivings @ity @cjust @USBTypeSteve Well, I understand, but for example I had to repair armrest on Mazda. It was quick and easy fix, explained in a short video. Specific small repair job. Shorts are the way to go for these.
Heather π»@cjust @USBTypeSteve Ah yes just send a picture of the text too. Logical.
@cjust As a Millennial who has never had a TikTok account and who does read articles, I can't relate, but I do get the sentiment because I know plenty of people my age who succumbed to brainrot.
Kara Goldfinch@USBTypeSteve @cjust I'd love to know how short a YouTube short could be and still have some meaning to these people. How much could you cram into 0.5 seconds, for example.
martinl π¨π¦π€πΊπ¦@KaraLG84 @USBTypeSteve @cjust According to the biased sample I get when I accidentally visit YouTube's main page: tits. Or ass. Or tits 'n ass.
Shaula Evans@cjust @martinl @KaraLG84 @USBTypeSteve Okay, now this is in my head. π
A Chorus Line (1985) - Dance: Ten, Looks: Three Scene (4/8) | Movieclips
Julien
"Dance Ten, Looks Three" from A Chorus Line at The 5th Avenue Theatre
Licho@KaraLG84 it's essentially like a pic
kepstin@USBTypeSteve @cjust seems like a lot of people still misjudge the age of millennials. We're getting pretty old now :) I grew up right through the switchover from flip-phones to smartphones (and started using a smartphone before mobile data was cheap enough to watch videos on the go).
But you also have to consider other factors - even though many millennials and older generations were the right age to have grown up using desktop computers, a lot of people simply didn't need one at home or couldn't justify paying for one, so they don't have the same experiences as more affluent members of their age group. For many millennials and folks from earlier generations, the modern smartphone was their introduction to computing and the internet.
Kinene@kepstin @USBTypeSteve @cjust True.
But some of the (us) older people grew up in nerdy families. Mom worked on computers that took punch cards. My only formal training was on a large programmable calculator with punch cards, in high school. The first home computer we had ran CP/M and took 5" floppies.
I have termux and a Debian Linux distro running on a Lenovo tablet.
As always, YMMV.
Jay Stephens@kepstin @USBTypeSteve @cjust I feel like there's a huge amount of amnesia among early tech adopters about how much later adoption of a lot of now-ubiquitous tech was, by the late adopting cohort.
Sarah Sammis@kepstin @USBTypeSteve @cjust college was my introduction to the internet. Iβm Gen X. My Boomer parents had computers in their jobs from the early 80s onwards. My grandmother used computers in WWII as a secretary at General Electric.
Petra van Cronenburg@pussreboots It also depends on Geography. In the 1990s, I lived in Eastern Europe and could only buy hardware thanks to a new US-Japanese shop in the capital. Impossible in rural regions.
Computers during WWII ... in Europe, there was Mr Turing against the Nazis ... computer photo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Turing#/media/File:Bombe-rebuild.jpg
MaxTheFox@USBTypeSteve @cjust Same but I'm late Gen Z and I feel like a dinosaur amongst my own peers.
Chris Routh (He/Him)As an elder millenial (or xennial, whichever you prefer), I approve this message.
Jay@cjust @USBTypeSteve Gen Z and Alpha I get, but there are Millennials who arenβt begging for text?
Arthur van der Harg@cjust @USBTypeSteve Exactly why I donβt like podcasts.
Wilfried Klaebe@ArtHarg This! Please, provide transscripts!
Sven Geggus@wonka @ArtHarg @cjust @USBTypeSteve Hm. While reading I usually can not do something else. While hearing Podcasts I can.
@giggls @wonka @cjust @USBTypeSteve I prefer to either give my full attention to what Iβm doing or let my thoughts wander. Paying attention to a podcast while doing something else feels like Iβm giving neither the podcast nor the task the attention they deserve.
When my mind wanders while doing a routine task, my brain is still in control of the switch when the task needs my attention. I barely notice the interruption. Not so when Iβm concentrating on a podcast.
@giggls I can't. If I try, I accomplish neither of the two things I try to do in parallel.
Also, transscripts can be read by the deaf. And they can be searched more easily.
@wonka @ArtHarg @cjust @USBTypeSteve Hm I am talking about stuff like cleaning the Kitchen, hanging up laundry and other boring stuff.
@giggls Those are not a good fit for me somehow.
Claudius@giggls @wonka @ArtHarg @cjust @USBTypeSteve as long as there are chores and commutes, there will be podcasts. For me they are a lifesaver. I don't say they must be working for you, but I am saying "I am very happy that they exist". But also: yes transcripts are awesome for many reasons, too!
Transcripts can be useful even for people who listen to podcasts during chores - "I heard something about that in a podcast once" is much easier to resolve with a search over the transcripts than listening to all of them all over again.
Dieu@ArtHarg @cjust @USBTypeSteve I used to listen to a podcast where they talked about articles while tidying up or doing the dishes. Not as informative but still interesting, and I have hands and eyes free for other things. Video just combines the disadvantages.
Derrial Book@ArtHarg @cjust @USBTypeSteve
At some point I knew that I dislike podcasts. I also an not a big fan of walking (yeah, I'm lazy). However, I love walking and listening to podcasts simultaneously.
At some point I knew that I dislike podcasts. I also an not a big fan of walking (yeah, I'm lazy). However, I love walking and listening to podcasts simultaneously.
@ArtHarg @cjust @USBTypeSteve
If I were a wordsmith, that's exactly how I would put it.
They just go together so well from the 'how much attention I have to give to each task' point of view. In addition, it's fantastic from the 'move, or you'll die young' point. I have an equivalent of a desk job (actually, an armchair job), so I really need that.
Kent Navalesi βοΈI'm an older millennial and perpetually embarrassed "slow reader." The fact that I read faster than GenZ should terrify everyone.
Jamie Gaskins@cjust @USBTypeSteve I get the sentiment, but as a GenX person who reads really slowly and sometimes doesn't have the patience for it, the generalization isn't great.
Graham WattCan I add, stop breaking up your post into a dozen posts when Mastodon supports a wall of text. We can read longer text and should be doing so.
Daniel Gibson@guamwatt @cjust @USBTypeSteve
Mastodon only supports 500 chars (unless patched).
Other Fediverse Software supports more, though
Mastodon only supports 500 chars (unless patched).
Other Fediverse Software supports more, though
@Doomed_Daniel
Thanks for the correction. I guess infosec.exchange has a higher limit (10000+)
Thanks for the correction. I guess infosec.exchange has a higher limit (10000+)
@guamwatt
yeah Mastodon can be patched to support that (see e.g. https://fouquet.me/2024/10/10/mastodon-4-3-char-limit)
It's baffling that Mastodon doesn't seem to provide a proper setting for this
Ash_Crow@Doomed_Daniel @guamwatt A 500 characters limit is fine. It allows you to like or boost the parts you want in a thread in a way that is not possible with a single wall of text.
And a single 10000+ chars message is too big in a system that doesn't manage headings to split it reasonably.
@guamwatt @Doomed_Daniel Yeah, you guys are loquacious motherfuckers π
aeva@Doomed_Daniel @guamwatt @cjust @USBTypeSteve that's just newbie mode that has the 500 character limit if you switch it to expert mode you can write longer posts and use π―πΈπ·π½πΌ
Winchell Chung βπ@aeva @Doomed_Daniel @guamwatt @cjust @USBTypeSteve
How does one switch to expert mode?
@nyrath @aeva @Doomed_Daniel @cjust @USBTypeSteve
Tap the BIG GEAR for settings, tapped on Other, maybe this setting for Default Format for Toots is the control?
@guamwatt @nyrath @aeva @cjust @USBTypeSteve
the different "font" is using weird unicode chars instead of actual formatting
that "default format" thing is not a regular Mastodon feature, but one of the "glitch-soc" fork: https://glitch-soc.github.io/docs/features/rich-text/
@Doomed_Daniel @guamwatt @nyrath @cjust @USBTypeSteve do not listen to these fools, you have to ask gargon to enable it for you
Sci-Fi Girl@5ciFiGirl @guamwatt @nyrath @Doomed_Daniel @cjust @USBTypeSteve what about that instance for dolphins where people can only say the letter "E" I bet you didn't think of that did you
The Book of Kels@guamwatt @cjust @USBTypeSteve
This one I don't mind, because when given the opportunity to make a Wall o' Text, a lot of people forget what *paragraphs* are.
I'm fine if they're forced to break things up for readability sometimes.
Crystal_Fish_Caves@cjust @USBTypeSteve to all tik tokers and you tubers; if your vid starts with, Hi I'm....I have already left the building.
@Crystal_Fish_Caves @USBTypeSteve SMASH THAT SUBSCRIBE AND LIKE BUTTON!
@Crystal_Fish_Caves @cjust ITβS YO BOIIIIIIII
ΚwΙnΙ Π½oΙ΄oΚΚΚΚ 
@cjust Elder Millennial here, agreeing. And if it *has* to be a video, at least let me watch on 2x speed. π
MylesRydenTotally relate, hate watching a 5 minute video where the actual content could have easily been boiled down to a sentence.
Yes, DIY type information needs to be seen for the technique or something, but most of the time the straight information would be much better in text.
@MylesRyden @cjust If it's on YouTube, I sometimes just click "show transcript" and CTRL F certain keywords. Saves a lot of time.