naima
SenTIL that Bugs Bunny is canon non-cis!
Mattie
Lauren by RL Stan Account@epiceneVivant I’ve seen this a few times and it’s always so refreshing to see. I love my canonically trans Bugs.
@nicfitzgerald The fact that they were on signs held by attendess of pro-trans-rights riots in the 90s is striking. Like damn this isn't just a fun fact this is part of our history.
rugk@epiceneVivant
Cool. If anyone has access and can check in the book or another citable source, it would really be cool top add to the Wikipedia article.
Checked the German article and it is not in there, yet.
Edit: actually, evidence seems to be lacking, see https://k.iim.gay/@kim/statuses/01JYGTCJVKBBE1VREMT2S6ZG5J
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@epiceneVivant gender: whatever they feel like at the moment/whatever's funniest
truly an inspiration to us all
truly an inspiration to us all
Thomas Rigby@epiceneVivant That maybe explains why there's a Bugs Bunny mural in the Gay Village in Manchester
@hryggrbyr
Canal street, apparently. Here in color: https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bugs_on_Canal_Street,_Looney_Tunes_Art_Trail_%5E5_-_geograph.org.uk_-_6884568.jpg
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Canal street, apparently. Here in color: https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bugs_on_Canal_Street,_Looney_Tunes_Art_Trail_%5E5_-_geograph.org.uk_-_6884568.jpg
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@rugk @epiceneVivant Walked past it again today and they've painted the background black. Bugs is still there though
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kimothy siddon@epiceneVivant unfortunately evidence for this seems to be a bit shaky. i took a look in Chuck Jones: Conversations and found nothing insinuating this, and others have tried the same in his other works and come up short: https://somelocusts.tumblr.com/post/732305128515895296/part-2-i-went-to-the-library-today-and-skimmed
i'd love for it to be true, but ultimately it's hard to say
@kim
Thanks for fact checking, respectively critically evaluating this. I also asked for that in https://chaos.social/@rugk/114740393179875407
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Thanks for fact checking, respectively critically evaluating this. I also asked for that in https://chaos.social/@rugk/114740393179875407
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Dot Maetrix@epiceneVivant I hate to be a buzzkill, but I've seen these tweets do the rounds like a hundred times and I've seen an actual scan of the relevant part of "one of his books" or indeed anything that would confirm the quote to be true exactly ZERO times.
Luci Callous Thumb@DotMaetrix @epiceneVivant i saw your other post about it so I went looking. someone at reddit pointed to this which… is something- but doesn’t really quite justify the claim…
@bri_seven @epiceneVivant Yeah this is more than I've ever seen, and yeah it doesn't really point to Jones considering Cross Dressing Is Funny jokes as anything other than Cross Dressing Is Funny jokes.
@DotMaetrix @epiceneVivant i mean, he says bugs bunny likes it! i can see how someone would extrapolate from that, especially if they read this passage years before and were relaying their rosy memory of what they had read…
on the other hand i am pretty sure transvestites have been well known enough for centuries- and this passage feels a little bit like that trans erasure where we are perpetually a new and modern degeneracy that “no one” knew about 10 years ago
Jan D@bri_seven @DotMaetrix @epiceneVivant
In case people want to check the source: The book is "Chuck Jones: Conversations" (2005), the page is 173
In case people want to check the source: The book is "Chuck Jones: Conversations" (2005), the page is 173
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acb@epiceneVivant Bugs is probably one of the handful of beings whose pronouns are actually fae/faer
Nazo@epiceneVivant That is actually kind of fascinating.
Also, it's always super neat to hear some classic/celebrity/writer/whatever was actually a good person in some way. Too often these days we find out our favorites from childhood ate babies in their spare time or something.
Chris [list of emoji]
Juho MäntysaloDon't want to ruin this to you, but this is exactly the same as Rowling declaring post-facto that Dumbledore was gay and in his youth the mages pooped on the floor and magicked away the evidence.
Edit: to be fair, this isn't the reason why Rowling is generally hated outside the most fringe weeaboo-community.
Well, to each their own. And I do like to think that as Dumbledore was then written as gay in the prequels, that in the later works Bugs was written as gender-nonconforming intentionally, and not just as gag.
Edit: in such a way that would make them part of the alphabet-list.
purple despairs@iju @epiceneVivant I really don't see how.
By the sounds of it the ‘genderfluidity’ was always there (see reference to norse tricksters) they just didn't know at the time that there was a community who would relate to it until they were told, at which point they embraced it.
Dumbledore, meanwhile, I don't think has ever been written as gay (even after the ‘revelation’) and I'm not sure anyone read them as such either — Rowling, as she often does, just felt like saying a thing, presumably with an aim of boosting her neolib credentials by ‘having a gay’.
I tried to bring that fluidity up in the follow-up post: that the gender-fluidity was (hopefully) more explicitly owned in the newer productions.
Dumbledore's gayness was implied in the originals to be the reason he couldn't go against Voldemort's predecessor, which was confirmed in the prequels.
The pooping thing was (iirc) mentioned in context of why the first HP-film/book had such late-modern and "normal" bathroom, while everything else post-1800 caused problems.
@iju @epiceneVivant literally when was that ever implied?
I'll admit I've not seen Fantastic Beasts first-hand since she was already being all-that, but I read the full original run, along with several of the spin-offs, and can honestly say I don't remember any reference to gayness at all.
Likewise I remember hearing a lot of people react to Fantastic Beasts films with frustration at a lack of gayness.
The toilets thing has always been ridiculous, and makes about as much sense as the train, but whatever.
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Sordid Amok!@epiceneVivant Check out George Herriman's Krazy Kat. KK was genderfluid in 1913, 27 years before Bugs Bunny was introduced. Herriman was mixed race, passing as white, and he included some subtle race commentary in KK as well. Also, it's a fun comic strip.