Andrea Junker Jun 22, 2025
Following a rich white man to war because you didn’t like the sound of a black woman laughing will go down in American history as one of the stupidest things ever.
Show threadDisisdeguey🔻PalestineAction🇵🇸Jun 22, 2025
@Strandjunker Well under that laughing woman they were already bombing and massacring #Palestinians
Do not cover one war monger with another.
#biden4genocide #kamala4genocide
Show threadEh?!?
@disisdeguey @Strandjunker
Given the current condition of #Palestinians after 5 months of this administration, the "blabla4genocide" argument strikes me for its careless disregard for the Palestinian people.
Jun 22, 2025 at 9:06amWeb
Show threadFalling forward 🍉Jun 22, 2025
@Eh__tweet @disisdeguey @Strandjunker
The careless disregard was from both political parties. That's the point.
Show threadcontrasocialJun 22, 2025

@Eh__tweet @disisdeguey @Strandjunker

It was as brutal under Biden, you just refused to see it.

Show threadEh?!?Jun 22, 2025
@contrasocial @disisdeguey @Strandjunker
That's not the point I'm making. If someone argues that a Dem administration would have not moved war to Iran (at least not under the current conditions), what's the point of bringing out that Dems and GOPs had the same stance about Palestine? It's exploiting the suffering of the Palestinians to prop up a political agenda re the USA. Or to claim one's own ethical purity, which is even worse, like "who cares about Iran war victims, I was right on Nov 6th"
Show threadcontrasocialJun 22, 2025

@Eh__tweet @disisdeguey @Strandjunker

What's the point of not participating in a vote between two genocidal candidates? Is that seriously your question?

Neoliberals hit the furthest extent that they could push us all to the far right, and that point was literal fucking genocide. You need to adjust your blame, the Harris campaign had a very easy way to avoid all this. They thought they could force us all to vote for her with the threat of Trump. Well, they can't. Learn the fucking lesson.

Show threadEh?!?Jun 22, 2025
@contrasocial @disisdeguey @Strandjunker
The point is making what's possible to avoid ADDITIONAL victims and suffering WRT what's already going on. Trump's victory brought nothing good for the Palestinians, and we now have war in Iran, migrants being disappeared in the USA, LGBTQ rights being maimed, poor people in the USA losing that minimal welfare they relied upon and counting.
Maybe more wars to come all over the world.
We may disagree on this, of course, but both PoVs deserve respect.
Show threadcontrasocialJun 22, 2025

@Eh__tweet @disisdeguey @Strandjunker

The genocide was running at full speed under Biden, what we're seeing now is no different from what was happening, it would've progressed along the same path.

Again, maybe the Harris campaign should've considered whether defending the depravity of a far right foreign regime was worth throwing our democracy down the drain.

I completely disagree that genocide apologetics deserve respect, no matter how much respectable language they're wrapped up in.

Show threadEh?!?Jun 22, 2025

@contrasocial @disisdeguey @Strandjunker
You are talking about what the Dems should have or should have not done. I don't argue on that, and the Dems are accountable for their choices.
I am talking about voters. Also they are accountable for the consequences of their choices.
The life of a guy deported to a concentration camp in El Salvador is not more worth that a Palestinian, but also not less worth.

And choosing "the lesser evil" does not mean being a genocide apologetic.

Show threadcontrasocialJun 22, 2025

@Eh__tweet @disisdeguey @Strandjunker

There is no "lesser evil" with genocide. Just evil.

And yes, voters are responsible for their votes. Which includes the last 40 years of "lesser" evil voting that got us here.

Those who withheld their votes are the very people effected by that choice. They made it willingly, despite it putting us in danger.

This is the end of the lesser evil strategy ever being viable. It's critical that you accept that. Do not try to force through another AIPAC dem.

Show threadEh?!?Jun 22, 2025
@contrasocial @disisdeguey @Strandjunker
I think we may agree to disagree.
Just one last remark: I'm not even in the USA, I'm Italian and we have been a laboratory for this kind of debate for decades now. What I got from our experience is that I have 4 or 5 years to dismantle the flaws of the political left wing, incl. "the lesser evil" AS A STRATEGY. Then comes election day. And I have to decide if I'm for public healthcare or for people dying young or being maimed because they're poor.
Show threadWm.sonJun 22, 2025

@contrasocial

And what would have been the result had she strongly come out against Israel?

Sadly, the point of running for president is to WIN or try to, in order to get in a place what you can affect change.

If she'd won, could she have stopped Israel? Probably not, but they haven't been stopped in the current outcome, either.

And the US is worse off for it. (Yes, coldly, sometimes we have to think about more than one terrible thing at a time.)

Just one opinion, all my own, trying to make sense of things.

Show threadSouprMattJun 22, 2025

@Eh__tweet @contrasocial @disisdeguey @Strandjunker You nailed it. The people who didn’t vote are making excuses for themselves now.

The “both sides are bad” people are helping MAGA. They might never gain the self-awareness to see it. But they are.