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@pluralistic Cory, absolutely loved Picks & Shovels. Looking forward to even more Martin Hench in the future.

Not relevant to P&S, but gives me strong vibes of both Eastern Standard Tribe and Walkaway universes: have you ever looked into _Meshtastic_ LoRa networking? (off-grid, low power, open source, mesh text comms)

Meshtastic looks like something that would appear on a Cory Doctorow Venn diagram…

Jun 22 at 8:56amWeb
Show threadCory DoctorowJun 22
@djoll Thanks! Will check out.
Show threadCyberFrogJun 22
@pluralistic @djoll can confirm LoRa radios and meshtastic is very cool, definitely your thing if you haven't looked at it before

I once saw those devices transmit data at passable speeds from over 150km away on a free-to-use radio band, very nice stuff
Show threadGuido StevensJun 22

@froge @pluralistic @djoll I especially like the Reticulum approach, with encryption built right into the routing, and its ability to operate on top of LoRa, normal internet, and whatever other networking base layer may be available.

Haven't actually played with it yet, though.

https://media.ccc.de/v/38c3-reticulum-unstoppable-networks-for-the-people

Reticulum: Unstoppable Networks for The People

media.ccc.de
Show threadsleepyJun 22
@froge @pluralistic @djoll the date rate is straight out of 1979 though.
Show threadCyberFrogJun 22
@sleepy well it depends on the operating mode, and distance etc, but it usually works well for simple stuff, that's why I said "passable" haha
Show threadTroed SångbergJun 22

@froge

Hooked up my node in southern Sweden and directly connected with a bunch of nodes from Denmark. Sure the land is pretty flat here but still a pleasant surprise.

@pluralistic @djoll

Show threadwall-e / DanielJun 22

@troed @froge @pluralistic @djoll now imagine what would be possible if we had less restrictive rules for fully autonomous UAVs...

A small fixed wing glider style UAV circling autonomously for hours, being a line-of-sight node for thousands of spread out devices, possibly even talking to other airborne nodes to extend the range :D

Show threadCyberFrogJun 22
@wall_e I investigated doing this with commodity party balloons and helium... turns out that makes the government VERY angry in most nations haha
Show threadwall-e / DanielJun 22
@froge yuuuup :D
Show threadchrisJun 23
@froge @wall_e So it was you that flew all those mystery balloons over the US last year!!
Show threadPhosphenesJun 23

@troed @froge @pluralistic @djoll

Cue open source Community Mesh propaganda...

Show threadCadenJun 23
@Phosphenes @troed @froge @pluralistic @djoll looking at this image makes me think how far we've strayed from the original goals of the internet. It wasn't intended to be this way, and the mesh picture better represents the early internet than the current internet picture does. It's a shame, but I suppose that's the fruit of capitalism