Dietmar Kammerer6d ago
ploum

Did you know that there’s a premium version of Whatsapp which :

- Has no advertising
- Has no mandatory AI integration
- Has no tracking and does not gather your personnal data
- Has increased privacy and stronger encryption
- Is exclusive and allows you to chat with other premium members

Best of all ? It is currently free to join!

Go now to your app store and install it before it is too late!

It is called "Signal"

https://ploum.net/2025-05-23-chats-digital-clutter.html

Reducing the digital clutter of chats

Reducing the digital clutter of chats par Ploum - Lionel Dricot.

Jun 21 at 9:53amWeb
Show threadJan VlugJun 21
@ploum Lol, I started reading and already decided: I'm not interested in #WhatsApp. Just before scrolling further I realized what the premium version is :-)
Show threadneoslugmanJun 21
@ploum j'adore !
Show threadKarisJun 21
@ploum 😄
Show threadgwhJun 21
@ploum It also has none of my contacts unfortunately😞
Show threadSatin ThérèseJun 21
@gwenhael @ploum everything have to be created in any case anyway...? Some won't change for privacy, so they'll have to use youre phne number.. what différence ? 😉
Show threadKarlJun 21
@gwenhael @ploum It's a shame that there is a superior version of whatsapp but I'm not able to use it cuz there's no contacts in it. 😭
Show threadBjarne OldrupJun 21

@gwenhael @ploum Your chance to be first mover 😉

Change has to start somewhere. Trying Signal for group chat or video call is an easy way to get people on board. And unlike Metas products, is easy, as it should be, to delete your account.

Show threadDuncan Blues6d ago
@gwenhael @ploum
That's something that can be changed.
Show threadJérémy -Jeey-Jun 21
@ploum J'avais vu passé ce type de message (certainement de toi, un pouet précédent ?) mais présenté comme ça, j'adore vraiment le concept ! Et c'est quand même plus sexy que "c'est libreuh" ! Merci :)
Show threadCarmilla DeWinterJun 21
@ploum merci! Just the thing to put into my WhatsApp status for today...
Show threadTuchowskiJun 21
@ploum Or @threemaapp. 😁
Show threadRodrigo PioJun 21
@ploum love this, spreading now a concise version everywhere 
Show threadLinuxUserGD Jun 21
@ploum Threema?
Show threadТунеядец 🛌Jun 21
@ploum 💙
Show threadU.LancierJun 21
@ploum and it hass way less trolls, cryptobros, and fascists loudmouths.
Show threadMikeJun 21
So exclusive that no one I know uses it
Show threadhuckJun 21
@ploum Did you know that there are premium versions of signal, where the users are at level with the service providers, because there are many providers per protocol, and one can even set one up oneself? So policy changes cannot be pushed by threatening to lose one's network. They are called matrix and xmpp. And they don't even have to be stationed in the US!
Show threadPepie 34 🐘🏳️‍🌈🐾6d ago
@huck @ploum I have 2 phones one for internal use no SIM card less pro app less notifications; the other the standard one for external use with signal on it. There is no way for my home phone to be linked as a slave app, as the tab app do. The main $ competitor does it without problem and no web app to circumvent it. That s a categorical no go for me. For my close friends I use xmpp and conversations.im that does not care how many devices I have and their nature, phone tab or laptop
Show threadGowtham SarathyJun 21
@ploum but only 7 of my 800 contacts has it. Better to use SMS
Show threadgrefengJun 21

@ploum Even better with Threema!

- it does not require a phone number
- does not nag you about donations
- does not have some payment stuff, that make it a target of regulatory stuff
- is based in Europe

Show threadWuMing2Jun 21
@grefeng I had Wire. Based in Switzerland as well. Apart of being used by only few of my contacts, it went through cycles of being open to all, then restricted to businesses only I think and then open again. It then slipped out of my mind having no contacts at all left on it. How is Threema business doing?
Show threadcaravantravellers 🌈6d ago

@grefeng @ploum

Beware!
https://www.techradar.com/vpn/vpn-privacy-security/secure-encryption-and-online-anonymity-are-now-at-risk-in-switzerland-heres-what-you-need-to-know

Secure encryption and online anonymity are now at risk in Switzerland – here's what you need to know

NymVPN, Proton, and Threema are ready to fight back

TechRadar
Show threadd0rk ✅6d ago

@grefeng
I like Threema but the problem is that it costs money and people were not willing to spend it. I have it since a long time but chats happen every couple of months.

Then another user problem: some dudes get new phones and didn't remember to backup their Threema ID.

Wrt the phone # in signal: you can use any phone number you own that moment. It also can be a voip number you throw away a moment later.

@ploum

Show threadBenjamin Sonntag-KingJun 21
@ploum also, the argument that no-one in your address book is using it is false:
Tried it for an old lady friend of my mother: a dozen of her most frequent contacts already had WhatsApp premium 🥰
Show threadEstelleJun 21
@ploum Or, funnily enough, having an old phone (iphone 8 in my case) makes those creepy updates unavailable on it 😄 But I still have migrated to Signal
Show threadSteffiJun 21
@ploum funny. I had Signal for years, even convinced my friends to use it. Then they announced that they dropped the SMS feature and I uninstalled the app that very minute.
Show threadRapha3lJun 21

@ploum

#unplugtrump

https://social.tchncs.de/@kuketzblog/114572938988438124

Mike Kuketz 🛡 (@kuketzblog@social.tchncs.de)

The #UnplugTrump series is now in English – spread the word and let it roll like a wave across the Fediverse! 🌊 👇 https://www.kuketz-blog.de/unplugtrump-free-yourself-digitally-from-trump-and-big-tech/ #UnplugTrump #privacy #security #GAFAM

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Show threadMaria Langer | 📝 🎬 ⚒️🛥️Jun 21
@ploum @User47 Are you telling me that people use chat apps with advertisements in it? 🤯
Show threadPeteJun 21

@ploum

Or @deltachat:

https://delta.chat/en/

#deltachat

Delta Chat: Delta Chat, decentralized secure messenger

Delta Chat is a decentralized and secure messenger app 💬 Reliable instant messaging with multi-profile and multi-device support ⚡️ Sign up to secure fast chatmail servers or use classic e-mail serv...

Show threadadb6d ago
@pete @ploum fixed it for you, nothing prevents in some years for Signal to take the same path, it is time to realize once and for all that the problem is centralization instead of jumping from one centralized silo to the next until it also becomes a shitshow
Show threadBill the LizardJun 21
@ploum And don't forget, there's a non-zero chance of learning US national security secrets!
Show threadDr. SeltsamJun 21
@ploum is there an optional ai integration for Signal?
Show threadMiakoda6d ago
@ploum Still waiting for a signsl app that works well enough on my phone. 🤷‍♀️️
Show threadv4rd4453n6d ago
@ploum but why does it require a phone number to sign up?
Show threadEric Lawton6d ago

@ploum

Since my wife is disabled, we use it just to communicate around our home, if I'm out of earshot.

We don't want to inform Big Tech of everything we talk about.

@AnnaAnthro

Show threadZeki Çatav 🤔 ☕ 🕯️🎶6d ago
@EricLawton @ploum @AnnaAnthro In this case, you can be more secure by using Conversations as a client with a Yunohost + Metronome or Prosody running on your own server (Raspberry Pi or VPS).
Show threadbytebro6d ago

@ploum

If only notifications worked reliably.

Show threadPetrichor ᚄᚔᚅᚐᚁᚆᚃᚒᚔᚂ6d ago
@ploum But it's not actually WhatsApp, is it? I don't want to use WhatsApp, but I can't switch all by myself!
Show thread[nyx]6d ago
@ploum tg user here, cannot use signal without missing features :/
Show threaddoc756d ago
@ploum is really like the idea of Signal being the Premium version of WhatsApp 👏
Show threadDistante6d ago
@ploum It's a shame that Signal doesn't have channels
Show thread🇯🇴6d ago
@Distante @ploum SimpleX Chat has! https://simplex.chat
SimpleX Chat - Contact

Show threadVolodymyr6d ago
@Distante channels like in whatsapp/tg? For what? Fediverse is channels. You can close your subscribers list also

@ploum
Show threadDistante6d ago
@Xen4n @ploum Today's social media feeds leave room to miss important posts if you are subscribed to more than 7 accounts. Channels solve this problem
Show threadVolodymyr5d ago
@Distante no, you can add subscribed account to lists and read only his timeline.

Union messenger and social network / news feeds is a bad idea.

@ploum
Show threadDistante5d ago
@Xen4n @ploum You still don't have a position on which post you last read. Channels keep the position and give you an indicator of how many new posts have appeared
Show threadVolodymyr5d ago
@Distante it can be managed by the client not much hard

@ploum
Show thread🇺🇦🇪🇺 cweickhmann6d ago
@ploum Bonus: you might get invited to US war rooms... 😉
Show threadpaul.7z6d ago
@ploum it's still a centralized platform and i'm afraid of it becoming the next telegram
Show thread🇯🇴6d ago
@pbg @ploum https://simplex.chat is descentralized
SimpleX Chat - Contact

Show thread🇯🇴6d ago
@pbg @ploum Take a look on it, it is even more private than Signal
Show threadpaul.7z6d ago
@kadjrare @ploum yea thanks. i like that it doesn't require a phone number, signal does and it's creepy as hell
Show thread🇯🇴6d ago
@pbg @ploum I created the group "Mastodon Moots" on SimpleX, join it! 👇
https://simplex.chat/contact#/?v=2-7&smp=smp%3A%2F%2FenEkec4hlR3UtKx2NMpOUK_K4ZuDxjWBO1d9Y4YXVaA%3D%40smp14.simplex.im%2FeDV7WCBJtuXt9dn3Os8nE5WDUMlWhJSb%23%2F%3Fv%3D1-4%26dh%3DMCowBQYDK2VuAyEAShVjIU6L7KgdWYQxXqeCdHvuMKMsKMkE9G8UjxV99As%253D%26q%3Dc%26srv%3Daspkyu2sopsnizbyfabtsicikr2s4r3ti35jogbcekhm3fsoeyjvgrid.onion&data=%7B%22groupLinkId%22%3A%22sQeQGNaUIuMXnxnCSjj1Wg%3D%3D%22%7D
SimpleX Chat - Contact

Show threadadb6d ago
@pbg take a look at #DeltaChat it is decentralized, anonymous, doesn't require phone numbers, is offline-first, has in-chat mini-apps and collaborative tools, and it is much more easier to use than SimpleX etc.
Show thread🇯🇴6d ago

@ploum And there is a premium version of Signal.
Which is decentralized, doesn't rely on phone numbers and has even more privacy.
- It's called "SimpleX Chat"

https://simplex.chat

SimpleX Chat - Contact

Show threadNelson1d ago

@kadjrare @ploum Sadly, SimpleX is run by fascists. Just read any post from their lead developer on Nazified Twitter for confirmation, like this post promoting hatred against trans people: https://x.com/epoberezkin/status/1881832239186759841

Even if they weren't fascists, they are a for-profit company that has taken VC funding, which means they would be doomed to become evil in the long run.

Evgeny (@epoberezkin) on X

@JamesEsses It is not just ideology. It is promotion of the chemical castration and mutilation to the children – the UK government should prohibit these horrific experiments. cc @reformparty_uk @RupertLowe10 please raise this issue in the parliament.

X (formerly Twitter)
Show thread🇯🇴1d ago
@skyfaller @ploum It's an opensource project and anyone can run their own servers. I really don't think we should not use a masterpiece because of the creator