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@SecureOwl how *does* one touch the internet?

Leah

Jun 17, 2025

@9pfs @SecureOwl certified internet toucher

David August ❌👑Jun 18, 2025

@9pfs @SecureOwl I don’t know, but if you don’t get consent via ssl first, you’re gonna have to stay 500 feet and 5 network jumps away from all routers from now on.

@davidaugust that's fine, as I assume that I can still chain socks5 proxies on the same L2 network as each other together as a way to access resources that aren't on my network without routers getting involved!

David August ❌👑Jun 18, 2025

@9pfs 😝 well proposed. 👏

@9pfs @SecureOwl You must grip it by the husk.

@Mnemonicman @SecureOwl I am getting more and more perplexed.

@9pfs @SecureOwl What was the airspeed of an unleaden Internet?

@Mnemonicman @SecureOwl Mach 881022.7337142857

@9pfs @SecureOwl African or European?

@Mnemonicman @SecureOwl What's the difference?

@9pfs @SecureOwl

Cath-in-a-Hat Jun 20, 2025

@Mnemonicman @9pfs @SecureOwl

😂😂😂

@pj @SecureOwl imagine watching a video of a shark munching on a random cable on youtube, then seeing the video freeze, and being like "wait... why is my email client not able to reach its server... oh no, I guess that cable was important after all"

Tim Hergert Jun 18, 2025

@9pfs @SecureOwl

@cjust @SecureOwl you created the internet?

Tim Hergert Jun 18, 2025

@9pfs @SecureOwl just now it would seem

@cjust what happens if you delete it

Tim Hergert Jun 18, 2025

@9pfs

@cjust "I am root, creator and destroyer of firewall rules, default routes, network interfaces, and internets."

spanghero Jun 18, 2025

@9pfs @cjust hear them ROAR ^

Leah

Jun 18, 2025

@cjust @9pfs elder scrolls V

Ben Aveling Jun 18, 2025

@9pfs Not the internet. Just an internet.
@cjust @SecureOwl

@BenAveling @cjust @SecureOwl how many internets are there?

Ben Aveling Jun 18, 2025

@9pfs At least two, it would appear, but they aren't all equal.
@cjust @SecureOwl

@BenAveling @cjust @SecureOwl Is dn42 an internet?

Ben Aveling Jun 18, 2025

@9pfs For what purpose?
@cjust @SecureOwl

@9pfs @SecureOwl I waa about to say " you finger it", but I don't think people would recognize such an obscure regerence and most probably thing or some sexual reference.

@mdione @SecureOwl do you connect to ff02::1%eth0 on TCP port 79 then?

@9pfs @SecureOwl got tcp port 79, got ::1, but I don't know about ff02 and the weird reference to an eth device :)

@mdione @SecureOwl ff02::1 is the IPv6 link-local all nodes multicast address, as designated by RFC2375, and eth0 is the first ethernet adapter detected on a (linux, or maybe other OSes too, idk, spare me) system that uses the default names assigned by the kernel for network interfaces. Multicast TCP is fundamentally impossible, so you'll never be able to connect, but if it was possible, you'd be accessing the finger service of every host on your LAN simultaneously, including potentially that of any routers that might be able to access other internet hosts.

@9pfs @SecureOwl yes, except `eth0` has been replaced by reproducible names like `enp2s0` or `wlp5s0`, but I was asking about the `[IPv6]%[eth_dev]` format.

@mdione @SecureOwl That just defines what interface to use, it's necessary for link-local addresses, and maybe multicast ones (not sure if all multicast ones, but ones associated with a specific interface obviously would need to have one defined)

@9pfs @SecureOwl it's the first time I see this format, thanks for clarifying!

Elena ``of Valhalla''Jun 18, 2025

@mdione you do realize you are on the fediverse, right? :D

(if there is any place where a significant minority of people are likely to recognize a reference to finger, I expect it to be :D )

@[email protected] @9pfs @SecureOwl @mdione I mean this place literally runs partially on a thing called WebFinger, which seems a clear reference even though it's only tangentially related to the old protocol

@darkphoenix @SecureOwl @valhalla @9pfs that I didn't know at all. I don't think I'll ever go down the fedi prtocol (whose name I completely forgot :)

@9pfs @SecureOwl to be clear: ever since I saw a movie whose name includss "got fingered" I try to avoid the expression completely, even when it was supposed to be a shock humor comedy (which I didn't know).

trip Jun 18, 2025

@9pfs @SecureOwl you can't touch the internet but the internet touches you

@ahto @SecureOwl I should let the internet directly reach my laptop over both IPv4 and IPv6

@ahto @SecureOwl Working on that right now, but of course oracle and DHCPv6 are not being kind to me.

@ahto @SecureOwl Done! My laptop is now reachable via static public IPv4 and IPv6 addresses of its own, I won't send them here since there's nothing to see yet though. If you want a redacted copy of the configuration on both the VPS I used to tunnel traffic to my laptop and my laptop, feel free to ask me for it.

⁂ Fish Id Wardrobe Jun 18, 2025

@9pfs @SecureOwl carefully.

@fishidwardrobe @SecureOwl The internet could be very dangerous if you anger it, so that's understandable.

spanghero Jun 18, 2025

@9pfs @SecureOwl I've been touched by the internet and it wasn't very pleasant. All those electrical signals running up my arm. Urghhh.

They were a pain to get back in the router as well.