Dear #GitHub, when I click on a link to an English language documentation page, I don't want to be automatically redirected to a machine generated German translation.
Yes, I have both enabled in my browser. Multi-lingual people are a thing. If I want a translation, I'll explicitly ask for it.
Every site whose product owner/manager insists on automatic translation should immediately fire them.
@hiker My browser is not the problem.
When I go to https://docs.github.com/github/writing-on-github/getting-started-with-writing-and-formatting-on-github/basic-writing-and-formatting-syntax (the English "original", found via the search engine), GH redirects me to https://docs.github.com/de/get-started/writing-on-github/getting-started-with-writing-and-formatting-on-github/basic-writing-and-formatting-syntax (which has the AI translation warning in the page footer) - until I explicitly pick a language on the site itself again.
I guess this is "helpful" for someone, but, uh, I hate that sites do it.
@hiker Same. I think it's because I have both English and German sent as languages I understand in the settings of the browser, and that doesn't have the concept of "equal" but enforces a priority preference, so either first will occasionally lead to the site being "smart" being annoying.
I just wish sites stopped trying to do provide "help" I didn't ask for.
@jens @larsmb German is my mother tongue. I speak English reasonably well. And I still WANT to see documentation that was WRITTEN in English in that language because I understand English better than I would understand an automated translation.
Actually I understand English better than some "professional" translations as well.
If it's English, show me English. If it's German, show me English. Never translate those two languages for me.
Sadly http doesn't have a notion of "translated" and "native".
@gunstick @thunfisch Yeah, YT auto-translating titles of German language videos is just asinine.
You can tell this was designed by and for Americans.
CC: Youtube
Those AI auto-generated German voice-overs/redubbings I've been getting per default lately were terrible.
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@larsmb while I won't argue about the machine generated part, as long as the link you clicked does not include some kind of language tagging ( often /en/ somewhere in the path ), it is actually a good behavior of the website to present the content in your preferred language ( if DE has a higher priority as EN ).
Therefore I would argue that link it self sould be fixed to include the desired language and not the page it links to ... ?
Only if there is a professional translation. If not, then no, don't take me to a shitty (=AI) translation.
IMHO.
@wouter @larsmb Microsoft used to seve an automatic translation of the Knowledge Base two decades ago. I remember debugging for two days with Windows people why Exchange didn't honor a particular registry setting before letting them show me exactly what they did. And I stumbled upon a "J" being set into a registry key.
Yes, on my English browser the same document said "Y" and that was also what worked.
@larsmb Heh, local public transports pages does the reverse. It's originally a Swedish site in Swedish. But since my browser data is configured to be as common as possible as an anti-fingerprint measure I'm not allowed to access the original. Instead I get a page in English with less information and using AM/PM for time. It also adds 2 hours to my query for no reason. Because if I query for 9.00 I definitely want times around 11.00. /s
Stop being "smart" be consistent and intuitive instead.
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