@JoBlakely @baldur The Industrial Age was always bound to destroy itself in the end and leave nothing but a toxic wasteland filled with mutant weeds and pests. It doesn't matter whether it's Liberal Democratic Capitalist Industrialism, Authoritarian or Fascist Capitalist Industrialism, Cyber-Feudalist Industrialism, or Soviet or Maoist Socialist Industrialism, the whole project of turning everything into an industry and mass produce anything than can be mass produced can only end in collapse because every single industrial process is only designed to solve one particular problem while disregarding all the unintended side effects that happen when that process is implemented at a really massive scale. It's the reductionism of engineering gone wild, we have been acting as if nothing really happens if we don't measure it, and the fact that in any hierarchical system, you're always trying not to tell your boss things that might you get fired.