QuadRadicalJun 14, 2025

Hello!

Does anyone know of a public Prosody XMPP server? In light of recent events in Matrix I wanted to try XMPP.

Also could someone explain OMEMO encryption to me? I know Prosody supports it, but is it on by default?

Thanks!

EDIT: Found an instance

#XMPP #Matrix #OMEMO #Prosody #ProsodyIM

Show threadhexaheximalJun 14, 2025
@QuadRadical I don't know of any public Prosody servers but as for the second part: OMEMO is (mostly) a client-side issue. I've self-hosted Prosody before, and I can say from experience that yes, OMEMO works fine from the server-side perspective by default - because OMEMO is almost entirely a client-side thing, and iirc the only things required by the server are not even specific to OMEMO. If you use Gajim, it should mostly Just Work.
Show threadQuadRadicalJun 14, 2025
@hexaheximal Okay, thanks! I was planning to use Dino as a client. So is it automatic when making DMs? But not joining more public rooms?
Show threadhexaheximalJun 14, 2025

@QuadRadical From my experience, Dino has a great user interface is extremely disappointing feature-wise. I would not recommend using it if you can just use Gajim.

Also, uhh, about that other part...

As you're probably well aware, Matrix is focused heavily around rooms instead of DMs - DMs are actually just rooms. XMPP is the other way around - DMs are the main focus, MUCs... less so. I try to avoid XMPP MUCs because I just don't want to put in the effort if it may or may not work.

Show threadQuadRadicalJun 14, 2025
@hexaheximal oh, well if xmpp is just dms then i dont see much of a point. i was probably going to stick to matrix anyways but i just wanted to try, but maybe i wont bother in that case. thanks!
Show threadhexaheximalJun 14, 2025

@QuadRadical It works pretty well for DMs, but if multi-user is your main focus, it's okay but not great.

While it has no E2EE, IRC works quite well for multi-user things and works on basically any platform you can think of.

Show threadQuadRadicalJun 14, 2025
@hexaheximal Eh, Matrix is a big upgrade over IRC for me. I'll stick to matrix, thanks! I selfhost already, (https://federated.nexus), so I don't need to worry about these premium user things, I'm just worried about the state of the foundation.
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Show threadhexaheximalJun 14, 2025
@QuadRadical What happened with the foundation?...
Show threadQuadRadicalJun 14, 2025
@hexaheximal to me it seems like theyre rather desperately trying to recoup money since their finances are bad, but i could be wrong: https://matrix.org/blog/2025/06/funding-homeserver-premium/
Introducing premium accounts to fund the matrix.org homeserver

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Show threadQuadRadicalJun 14, 2025
@hexaheximal I also don't love that the Exec Director is paid so much there...
Show threadkitkatJun 15, 2025
@QuadRadical @hexaheximal how do you know it's much? it's only a relative figure
Show threadQuadRadical
@kitkat @hexaheximal the fact the Exec Director is payed such a huge percentage is what bothers me.
Jun 16, 2025 at 1:16amWeb
Show threadkitkatJun 16, 2025
@QuadRadical @hexaheximal why?
is the director paid much so much or are there just not many work hours / staff paid besides the director?