Casey Liss
Ben Foote@caseyliss Seems like a bad idea to me. Gonna get people killed.
Tim Weston 
@benpocalypse @caseyliss from the article, “For safety reasons, video playback will only be available when the vehicle is parked.”
Erik Childs@benpocalypse @caseyliss I mean.. only if they’re watching the video from The Ring (2002) in their parked cars.
Adam Bell 
@caseyliss cc @jeff lmao
Dan Moren@caseyliss I'd like it to see if it can figure out when my stick shift is in park. 🤨
@dmoren I had the same thought, but I **think** it's based on location services not any sort of comms with the car.
But apparently it needs enhanced support on the car side regardless, so you and I are SOL anyway :(
Alexander L@caseyliss @dmoren If it was to use infomatics from the car; it would likely check for the parking brake. It's how the nav lock out works on my 6 speed (and how I defeated it…).
Robert 
@ConnertheCat @caseyliss @dmoren wouldn't it just check if the engine is running? Or ignition? I would imagine that CarPlay receives those states, does it not?
Graham Ballantyne@robkrueger @ConnertheCat @caseyliss @dmoren that wouldn’t work for the use-case of an EV at a charging station; it can be common to leave the car “running” while charging so that you can have heat or AC going while you wait.
CarPlay already knows when a car is in park (doesn’t help Dan, I know). I can only type a search in Google Maps in park, otherwise only voice search or tapping a list of quick shortcut locations.
@gnb @ConnertheCat @caseyliss @dmoren I can use CarPlay without leaving the car in „ready“ state in my EV. And I can control climate from an app even if the car is „off“ and locked. So I do think that there would be a way to use it while charging, if implemented correctly on both sides.
@robkrueger I was responding to the theory that it wouldn’t work if the car was in an “engine on” state. There are fully legitimate reasons to keep an EV “on” but not driving. If I’m in a ferry lineup, for example, I put it in park but don’t turn it off so I can keep the AC running. Sure, I could turn it off and then start AC from my phone, but that’s just silly.
@caseyliss The screen in my head unit is so small and low quality that this would be silly. But I don't loooove the idea of people watching video on these things. Someone will get around it. I wonder if they have multiple systems: check if you're moving with accelerometer/GPS and try to talk to the car if you can?
ChancerubbageThey’ve been using accelerometer to lock out iPhone functions for years now.
John Payne 
@Chancerubbage @dmoren @caseyliss I think car-dependent there is also feedback. For example in my 2019 subaru when the car was moving, my passenger could type into maps on the carplay screen. In my 2024 ford, the keyboard button isn't available when in motion. I don't think it's purely phone accelerometer/gps.
@john @Chancerubbage @caseyliss I've got a 2012 GTI that I retrofitted with CarPlay, so I'm pretty confident it knows almost nothing about the state of my car.
@dmoren @Chancerubbage @caseyliss yep! Just reflecting on my experience that, well, experiences differ across cars (and head units) :)
In my case, it is the iPHONE governing safety concerns and app disabling - the phone damn well knows you are moving.
@Chancerubbage @dmoren @caseyliss Yep - I just think it sometimes has more input to work from. It's always the phone, no way that the ford is able to turn off a carplay displayed software button in the maps app. But it seems that the phone is more confident that the vehicle is moving or not in park?
Maybe you could park on a hill start a movie put the car in neutral and let it start rolling down the hill and see what happens.
It’s CarPlay, not AirPlay.
Fish@dmoren @john @Chancerubbage @caseyliss I did the same to my 2011 GTI, with an aftermarket Alpine, but it does know when I'm in park because I can't choose to add a new device to CarPlay unless the parking brake is on.
I'm not actually sure how it knows, I do also have a box in between that lets me leverage the steering wheel controls and I wonder if that's passing some info back to the head unit 🤔
I’m talking of the iPhone in general assuming it has -something- to do with CarPlay for most users. (Could people be connecting their iPad instead? Probably, but could that take calls, an increasingly dubious need for some these days?)
But I doubt just because some interface elements have moved to a dash screen that iPhone would surrender its ‘car is moving don’t do that’ protections.
Movies/TV on the back headrests for passengers? Already in the wild w or wo Apple.
Dave Nanian@dmoren @caseyliss Remember, they could always "get around this" by just putting an iPad in the car, or using the phone without CarPlay.
Jerks are gonna jerk...
@dnanian @caseyliss Totally true! I don't know if that makes it better or not. 🤪
Jack Brewster@dnanian @dmoren @caseyliss Android Auto has supported video playback for awhile, though I think it’s also limited to while stopped.
Tim Schmitz@dmoren @caseyliss In my car I can’t bring up the system keyboard in CarPlay apps unless I’m in park. Maybe it uses the same system?
Lee@dmoren @caseyliss It might watch your parking brake, depending on how old your car is.
Sage@dmoren @caseyliss My manual 2019 Mazda used to lock you out of touchscreen capabilities in CarPlay and forced you to use the turny dial whenever the car was in motion (which was very stupid and one of the reasons I replaced it with a 2024 model but that’s beside the point), so I think it’s been a built-in capability for a while.
@caseyliss that's nice. Makes charging stops with kids easier.
@caseyliss I have a deeply ingrained notion that if a car is not running or moving, you are draining its battery and it won’t start again.
Jeff C. 🇺🇦🇬🇱@Chancerubbage @caseyliss Same, but that stems from when there weren’t cars that were basically giant battery packs on wheels.
Oh yes, no one is ever going to wear down an EV battery by keeping the AC on, blaring the stereo, charging their devices or being stuck in a traffic jam.
No one.
@Chancerubbage @caseyliss Yeah. Apparently “dog mode” in a Tesla can go over 10 hours, and that’s full AC with a lit-up screen.
I don’t know if I’d do a full Lord of the Rings marathon or anything, but I can’t imagine sitting in a parking lot and watching a few YouTube videos or whatever being a major problem.
The problem is people heading out on a low charge. They can run out of power in unseemly situations just like a car running low on gas. Except the rescue isn’t a 5 gallon gas can, it’s a much rarer beast, a super charger on wheels.
@Chancerubbage @caseyliss I presume that those people might leave their video binge session until they get home.
In my experience with EVs, low charge levels are pretty prominently displayed. If you’re low enough that this is an issue, you’ll probably make other choices about what you do with your remaining power.
Also worth considering that one of the main times one might want to watch videos in their parked car is while it’s currently hooked up to a charger.
I don’t think there has been any issue with watching whatever video you pleased while parked. Most of my posts in this thread have been about the perhaps never stated notion of the driver watching a movie while driving, and safeguards iOS already has to discourage or prevent such distractions in a vehicle it knows is moving.
ewanpearson@caseyliss oh that's great - we just got a Kia EV3 (small-ish electric cars on UK roads for the win) and the display is massive - Kia are trying to get people to pay for an entertainment package sub but this will be so much better.
Dan Morgan 
@caseyliss Give me lyrics to songs while I drive you cowards!! That’s the real Carpool Karaoke we deserve!!
Human@caseyliss A lot of people here seem to think this will be used while people are driving and cause accidents, but this already is an issue. I regularly see people watching videos in their cars on their phone already. If you want to watch TV on your commute, then take a tram or street car, cycle, or walk. Except those don't exist anymore or are now impractical most places and all we have is car centric infrastructure. The solution to most transportation issues is viable alternatives to driving.
Edwin G. 
@caseyliss Sounds like an accident about to happen.
How many will watch a video while stopped at a traffic light 🚥!