@jwildeboer @kaixin Which sucks because Wayland is certainly not mature enough to replace X11...

I tried giving Wayland another shot just last week and had my first driver crash on this system after a context menu in steam would not close. Then afterwards would crash immediately upon login.

The only time I have problems with X11 is when I deliberately create them. Sure it might 'suck' more and isn't 'modern' but it also doesn't fail catastrophically on a regular basis.
@psilonaut@idtech.space @jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net I think #X11 is all good as long as I stay away from #Nvidia stuff. #wayland on the other way will only be good when I stay with #Gnome or #KDE and willing to spend some time. Last time I tried #wayland was #labwc on #FreeBSD , was hard but many of my little tools wouldn't work without tinkering.