#Immigration #protests in #LosAngeles #LA #California

'Early Sunday, #Trump wrote on Truth Social that “#MASKS WILL NOT BE ALLOWED to be worn at protests.” He wrote, “What do these people have to hide, and why??? Again, thank you to the #NationalGuard for a job well done!”'

https://deadline.com/2025/06/trump-national-guard-los-angeles-ice-raids-newsom-1236426811/

uh huh

#ToddLyons, head of #ICE:

#Immigration #protests in #LosAngeles #LA #California

There's a lot of violent video out there. I'm going to avoid it, it's lurid. But I want to focus on this video because it speaks to our future:

#Waymo taxis on fire

Going after regular people's cars is dumb. It turns regular people against you

But #Waymos are #robots, easy dumb targets, and there is no threat to human life

Plus they are #corporate #AI assets and represent our growing #enshittification from creepy #techbros

Light 'em up

@benroyce Plus, many insurance policies specifically exclude wars, political unrest and acts of terrorism from their cover. So there is a better than even chance that destruction of private property by protesters will not be covered by the owner's insurance.

@kauer

i'm just a nobody, not a protest tactician

but:

protesters when they target corporate assets:

big win

protesters when they target regular people's property:

big lose

how things play out in the media and the popular conscience matters, and organized protests need to focus on effective messaging

of course there will be agent provocateurs warping your messaging from within the crowd

so a good protest must be ready to handle them as well

@benroyce Fires will be treated as arson. Rocks tossed off bridges as felony assault. A broken window as rioting.
Spreading out into 100 small non violent demonstrations would mess with large concentrations of authority. The LA Police Department said that they can handle a large group in just 1 or 2 locations. The National Guard can’t do it either.
@stevewfolds @benroyce please don’t throw rocks off bridges onto cars, that actually kills people.

@maggiejk @stevewfolds

exactly

that plays on Fox News to MAGA and then you get big support for Trump limiting our civil rights and replying with state violence

Protests yes

Violent protests no

@maggiejk @benroyce I am a frail old pacifist who would use my cane to whack anyone near me about to throw anything. :)

@maggiejk What if we aim for ICE vehicles? ;) @stevewfolds @benroyce

(And yes, I'm kidding) (kindof)

@benroyce this has been one of my favourite tactics that I've seen used in LA so far.

@benroyce

Yup.

this is what middle America sees. This and the stories about looting and violence.

They will not see the story about the mother or father being separated from their children. They all not see the violence being inflicted by ICE.

All they see is "violent latino criminals" or whatever fox is telling them.

Whatever the points of the protests were, it's lost on a large part of the rest of the country.

@kbsez

MAGA media and social media trolls work hard to jump on a story and shape perception

manufactured optics

if the real story is

"fred punched bob so bob punched fred"

they lie by omission by truncating video, selecting pictures, and goosing narratives to show

"bob punched fred"

@benroyce @kbsez that the orange trumpery is so old that he trips on his way onboard to Air Force One?

@kbsez @benroyce
Faux News was able to use the videos of violence, rioting, and looting at 2020 BLM protests successfully as propaganda and caused Biden to not have a decent Congress to work with and even worse made the election such a close call that it caused J6 to happen.

Political violence is the opposite of helpful. It is just a few people taking out their rage without consideration of the big picture.

@kbsez @benroyce
I wouldn't worry about the political violence from a few idiots on the left if unaffiliated leftists would finally start voting, but as usual they seem intent on teaching us Democrats a lesson rather than helping us defend democracy from fascism sadly.
@kbsez @benroyce But on the bright side for the fascist fuck, it's super easy to get false-flag operators to do those crimes and sell his agenda. In fact he doesn't have to do anything. His jackbooted sycophants like the Boogaloser Bozos and ProudToddlers, will do it unbidden just like they did killing cops in Oakland during the Floyd protests.
Protesters summon, burn Waymo robotaxis in Los Angeles after ICE raids

As Angelenos push back against federal raids, Waymo’s I-Paces pay for it.

Ars Technica
@stevel oof!
@benroyce @stevel I like how this rather graphically shows the limits of so-called 'self drive' technology, lol....

@benroyce darker history in Northern Ireland: taxi drivers were summoned and whoever turned up got killed

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Michael_McGoldrick

A decade later I was trying to get a taxi on that same road (Garvaghy Road, Portadown) - they wouldn't come and pick us up until we explained who we were related to. That was years into the peace settlement -but I understand their fears

Murder of Michael McGoldrick - Wikipedia

@stevel

drivers, delivery people... these are dangerous jobs. endless tedium followed my moments of sheer terror. they are targeted, not just in the troubles for terror, but petty theft under mortal threat all over the world

@stevel ...because their surveillance footage is used by the police as well, without requiring a warrant (as far as I've heard). Sorry about the pollution, not so much about the choice to incapacitate them in this context.

@benroyce

🤬 Then ICE shouldn't be violently violating our constitutional rights and the ideals of the Declaration of Independence.

@benroyce "Accuse the other of that which you are doing" (or something similar) - Jos. Goebbels, NAZI
@benroyce Wish I were surprised.