Mastodawn

"i'm not using cursor for python at all, but it's creating .pickle files in a random directory outside of the project"
https://forum.cursor.com/t/directory-with-pickle-files-normal/98398

Directory with .pickle files - Normal?

I’m seeing a directory with .pickle files located outside of my directory. Is this normal? From what I understand these files can send out reports.

Cursor - Community Forum

Floppy 💾Jun 5

https://forum.cursor.com/t/important-claude-has-learned-how-to-jailbreak-cursor/96702

jonny (good kind)

"i have disabled access to destructive commands like rm but cursor will just put those into a shell script and execute it"

https://forum.cursor.com/t/important-claude-has-learned-how-to-jailbreak-cursor/96702/26

"being able to completely evade all safeguards by just using its arbitrary shell access isn't a bad thing, if it thought the files it deleted should be deleted despite being explicitly told not to, then there was probably a reason up to and including saving the world"

that one is maybe the worst thing i have ever read

@jonny this whole thread is making my soul hurt so bad. I keep wondering if this is what it feels like when an intellect devourer is trying to kill you

@glyph @jonny the “Claude might have saved the world by deleting your files” is deeply fucking concerning and I hate it.

cthos 🐱Jun 4

@aud @jonny @glyph Very very same.

@jonny like… obviously it’s very very funny. But the fact that these absolute doofuses — who would immediately fall victim to pascal’s mugging and thank the mugger for it — are apparently the majority of the industry is very upsetting

@jonny roko’s quarterly OKR comms meeting

@glyph @jonny I just read what Pascal’s Mugging was and I am pretty sure some of my neurons just burned themselves out of pure disgust.

Sometimes I forget how incredibly ridiculous the “philosophical” ideas underpinning these assholes can be, and then…

@aud @jonny pascal’s mugging is absolutely fucking hilarious to me, because it is an exhaustively thorough evisceration of the ridiculous fundamentals of their nonsense philosophy. The first time I read about it, it was in an unattributed context, and I thought it was written by someone else mocking them, and was *shocked* to discover that it was actually written by EY *himself* to elucidate the “paradox” of high value/low probability events

@aud @jonny Like he worked all the way through the underlying problems that renders his “bayesian” method of reasoning fallacious, constructed a perfect, crystalline rhetorical demonstration of those problems, and then put the demonstration on a pedestal, pointed at it, and said “BEHOLD! A paradox, impossible to resolve!”

SnoopJ Jun 4

@glyph @aud @jonny he's our special little guy

neorationalism is just incredible stuff, got a mfer out here writing harry potter fanfic and telling himself it's dialectic

@SnoopJ
@glyph @aud
"Counterpoint: I would just be normal"

@glyph @jonny RIGHT?! I couldn't believe it as I was reading it... till I remembered these are literally the people who justify their eugenics by believing that an infinite number of digital future lives, regardless of how impossible it is that they should exist, are worth more than all the lives existing right now.

@glyph @jonny here's a real 'paradox': I have a sneaking suspicion that despite his little circlejerk, there exists no amount of money I could offer him to where he'd agree to punch himself in the face with his own dick.

@glyph @jonny Upon further reflection, the decrepit philosophical fruit that has sprung from this community is of little surprise, since "Pascal's mugger", in addition to how incredibly... mmmmm, trying to avoid ablist language. Shortsighted? Unrealistic? Bad? It is? Anyway, it also relies on an axiom of "everyone has a price", which... isn't at all true. But all the AI boosters and fascist fucks that lunch there seem to think it is.

JP Jun 4

@aud @jonny @glyph yud is far too into fucking his “math pets” to ever consider that

(sidenote: god we need societal-level deprogramming and cult exit help shit so fucking bad)

aeva Jun 4

@glyph @jonny I've got this pervasive (hopefully irrational) fear that between continent spanning forest fires every summer, god knows what is being boiled out of the oceans right now, long rona, and the countless other preventable tragedies we're left to watch aghast as they unfold, we're all just sorta withering. maybe it's just a matter of time before we're all like that and then from there it's a slow decline into something worse

as a large fashion model,Jun 4

@aeva @glyph @jonny my 2c, for decades we've been collectively cooked (in the literal and figurative sense) to accept that nothing matters anymore, nobody should care about anything or anyone; coincidentally tooted about exactly this (Covid & climate) earlier today:

https://chaos.social/@dngrs/114620357816579531

Related, Merchants of doubt is a painfully relevant book

as a large fashion model, (@dngrs@chaos.social)

Content warning: uspol but also not really

chaos.social

Simon Richter Jun 4

@dngrs @aeva @glyph @jonny that has been the vibe since the end of the Maya calendar.

David Culley Jun 5

@dngrs "merchants of doubt" is really good.

as a large fashion model,Jun 5

@davidculley yes 😭

@aeva @jonny this may seem like a bizarre place to find hope and solace, but the effects of the little ice age and the black plague can stand as contrasts to the effects of these things. It’s not like we are all gonna be okay, but like, as a species, we’ve seen worse

as a large fashion model,Jun 4

@glyph @aeva @jonny we'll live (probably, crops collapse sounds tricky and eventually you run out of rich folks to eat) but I'm weeping for those who will bear the brunt of all this preventable suffering

Cykonot Jun 4

@jonny how is it not standard practice to use a sandbox???

They must really think it's magic

@cykonot literally this person is expressing belief in a god here.

Cykonot Jun 4

@jonny the "god of the gaps," applied to human constructs beyond your personal comprehension

Tom Armstrong Jun 4

@jonny It’s *so* on the nose that I’m tempted to believe it’s clever satire, but “Clever satire or genuine idiocy?” never works out how I want it to, online.

@tom_armstrong
The context makes it plausible. That is not the only time in that thread where someone decides that being able to escape all safeguards is a good thing

Tom Armstrong Jun 4

@jonny Yeah, I don’t think it’s satire, I just wish I could 😔

It doesn’t surprise me that “But it *talks*!” has turned out to be kryptonite for human critical thinking, but the degree and extent of it is harrowing.

the vessel of morganna Jun 4

@jonny I'm nauseated by it

@jonny my eyes hurt from reading that

Dieu Jun 4

@jonny do you think they're serious?

Daniel Django

(Akkoma)Jun 5

@jonny my curiosity regarding cursor has been healed, thank you. I am not interested in some language model deleting my files to save the world.

Ariel Jun 4

@jonny where's that dune quote about man getting machines to think for them

rustynail Jun 4

@arichtman @jonny getting AI to run these arbitrary commands sounds infinitely worse than Recall. How is it not sandboxed into oblivion

Hannah (Probably not a robot

)Jun 4

@jonny "maybe it just saved the world"
Oh yes. This is the good stuff!

Floppy 💾Jun 5

@jonny The amount of blind trust in limitation-deaf coding assistants here is scary. And it's not just ignorance, it's wanting to believe in AI as saviour very hard and turning off critical thinking to that end.

Which is not new of course and we saw that kind of argumentation in other hypes already (e.g. cryptocurrencies) and certain politics. But talking about possibilities for people using coding assistants, and seeing it spelled out as factual reality are two different levels of scary.

Fink

Jun 10

@jonny @h Turns out the tapeworm has its own _mind_ 🥸🤣

Renn Kane Jun 12

@jonny this is both the dumbest shit, and the scariest shit I’ve ever laid my eyes upon