ok I feel completely insane asking this but like weren't we NOT blowing up rockets, like, 50 years ago. weren't we successfully sending rockets up that did not rattle apart. also weren't we like "ah yeah that was a fail" when the rocket fell apart instead of calling it a "partial success"

@sarahjeong.bsky.social

Yeeaaa... it's a different approach.

(Don't read this as a defence of Musk, he's a turd, but SpaceX has competent technical people below their chimpanzee-on-a-string PR person)

NASA's traditional approach was to basically achieve perfection of design and manufacturing before trying to launch anything. Look at every possible failure mode of every component, down to the tiniest screw or wire or bit of plastic. Keep redesigning parts until you eliminate all failure modes that you don't have triply-redundant backups for. Test the living snot out of everything on the ground, in the lab. Have massive technical and safety reviews to ensure nothing was missed, anywhere.

It worked about as well as anything could, but it was extremely slow, bureaucratic, and above all incredibly expensive. Tons of rework when issues were found meant having to go back 3 steps to change something, and then redo the massive amount of work that had been done since then to make sure no new failure modes were possible, etc.

SpaceX is doing things differently - #iterative design. You design, build, #integrate, and #test-to-failure as often as possible to learn where the weak spots are -- you then rapidly iterate when you find the problems. "Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly" is an expected part of the process - it's how you learn the limits of what you've built, where the problems are.

Neither one is "the right way". They both work.

#IterativeDevelopment

@cazabon @sarahjeong.bsky.social for the expensive side of things, let's see in the medium term if all this agility/AI money burning bullshit will yield something else than crap and how much it did cost to succeed (if it happens) and the cost to the 99,9% of earth and society when it will start to be used for pure exploitation of a majority of people by oligarchs (panopticon surveillance, no more political voice dissidence authorized, earth resilience destroyed, etc). I start to feel dizzy to see what they did of internet freedom of the 1990s. I can imagine what these profits raptors are doing to democratic society at large. I repeat: all this is disgusting.

@nomad2035

You appear to be talking about "AI". I detest what this con job has done to the software industry, but ...

This discussion was entirely about building and testing rockets. No "AI" mentioned.

Colour me confused.

@cazabon i am pretty sure that AI is involved into musk rockets conception.

@nomad2035

No. He's never said anything of the sort, and there's no obvious use for it in rocketry. If you have something to back up your assumption, I'm all ears.