Anders StenbergSpeedrunning the "I should try Rust again" to "maybe I should try Zig instead" pipeline. Maybe I'm back to C++ in record time this cycle.
The Seven Voyages Of Steve@SonnyBonds Rust just makes me tired. If I was starting from scratch I’d probably be using Zig
Per Larsson@sinbad @SonnyBonds I love zig. When using it it's clear that it's not finished yet, but it's still the most fun language I know of.
@finalman @sinbad For some reason whenever I've tried to do something with it I've just not managed to make myself continue. With Rust I've been incredibly frustrated but still pushed on.
I'm probably going to give Zig a go again though. Found some vector graphics lib and it's got SDL so I should be good to go.
Martin Kift@SonnyBonds @sinbad I am not a fan of c++, however outside of personal projects my barriers to new languages is quite high unfortunately, at least for gamedev. So it’s eco system has to have full IDE support and not just VSCode, has to have decent debugger, profiler, analysers available, and must be supported on all platforms I might ever want to ship on which includes consoles. Does any language other than c/c++ offers that currently?
@MouseByTheSea @sinbad Yeah I'm a bit the same. Although I don't really mind just VS Code or similar. I think few other languages have bespoke IDEs? C#, Java and maybe Python I guess.
Sidetrack but speaking of C#, aren't there ways of compiling that to native nowadays? Maybe that's limited.
@SonnyBonds @sinbad I’m not a fan of VS either, but something like that. Jetbrains covers c#, rust, etc, of course.
Re: c# are you thinking of brute?
My main concern with such technology, same with unity and ilcpp, is you now have to deal with multiple layers of code and bugs there in. And the converted code is never that readable and therefore not that nice to debug.
@MouseByTheSea @sinbad The thing I'm thinking about is called "Native AOT" but I don't know what restrictions there are.
@SonnyBonds @sinbad I haven’t used native aot so I’m not aware of what platforms it can target and what restrictions it has. I assume that it is still garbage collected?