@breadandcircuses The future is already here. I bought a 2024 Toyota. It has remote start, but the remote doesn't have a button to start the car. You have to install an app and pay a subscription fee of $15 monthly. I'm pissed, but I don't need remote start bad enough to pay $180 a year.

@tzudad @breadandcircuses Sorry, what is remote start needed for? Preheat/Cool?

@1000millimeter @breadandcircuses Yes, that's all it does. I don't let my car run for the fun of it, but I do like to start it when temps are really high or low. I give my car 30 seconds to warm up while I walk across the parking lot. It's starting to cool off or warm up but not wastefully idling for more than a minute.

@tzudad @breadandcircuses When it's hot, what I do is open all windows at first, also for like the first 500m of driving or so, to get the heated up inside temperatur down to outside temperatur. Faster than letting AC do this. After that AC takes over.

@1000millimeter @breadandcircuses Remote start isn't evil. The weather can be perfect, but I still give my car 30 seconds to settle down after starting. I also leave my front windows open about an inch to help keep temps down while parked.