Charlie Stross
Another reason to not use ChatGPT: THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DELETE anything BY COURT ORDER. (Straight up violation of GDPR if they're doing this outside the USA, BTW.)
https://social.wildeboer.net/@jwildeboer/114530814476876129
Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: (@[email protected])

#Oops Due to the ongoing case New York Times v #OpenAI, you cannot delete your #ChatGPT prompts and conversations as the court has ordered [1] on 13th of May that all logs must be stored until further notice. OpenAI is furious as that means "including sensitive personal information, proprietary business data, and internal government documents" [2]. The court is not impressed [3] and sticks to the order. [1] https://steigerlegal.ch/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/20250513-openai-gericht-verfuegung.pdf [2] https://steigerlegal.ch/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/20250514-openai-antrag-schreiben-gericht.pdf [3] https://steigerlegal.ch/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/20250516-openai-gericht-ablehnung.pdf

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May 19, 2025 at 9:16amWeb
Show threadMarjorieRMay 19, 2025
@cstross of course US Court Orders have no force, even the US government ignore them.
Show threadBashStKidMay 19, 2025

@cstross Somehow I doubt OpenAI really delete all that lovely proprietary data after it’s been handed to them on a plate.

We need an update of the old Father Ted line, “oh, but those files were just resting in my account”.

Show thread XaetaCore May 19, 2025
@cstross Another reason not to use most US services/hardware atm
Show threadFabienMay 19, 2025
@cstross @NotTheLBCGuy @jwildeboer To think many are using it as “therapy”...
Show threadLazarou Monkey Terror 🚀💙🌈May 19, 2025
@fabienmarry @cstross @NotTheLBCGuy @jwildeboer isn't that how Scientology keeps it's hold over it's members?
They get you to reveal your innermost secrets on video then they hold that against you as blackmail so they can control you. The shit Tom Cruise must have said....
Show threadCouldBeMathijsMay 19, 2025
@cstross Yeah how would that even work? What's the procedure here, I might want to delete data as an EU-citizen
Show threadCharlie StrossMay 19, 2025
@CouldBeMathijs American courts don't seem to generally give a fuck what foreign jurisdictions' laws say (other than during extradition hearings).
Show threadMedea Vanamonde🏳️‍⚧️ ♀May 19, 2025
@cstross @jwildeboer
Suckers
Show threadEleanor SaittaMay 19, 2025
@cstross
Legal holds are still legal (and mandatory) under UK and EU law. A compliant organization will delete the data anywhere outside their legal hold environment and stop processing it for other purposes and will remove the remaining copy after the legal hold is lifted, but they will preserve the data under legal hold.