Mastodawn

@bsletten @garymarcus @ericsedge strong disagree that many of those examples qualify as equivalent to vibe coding.

To me, this is an elitist view of what qualifies as “real” coding being equated with getting a computer to make shit up.

Of the tools listed which I have used, *none* are the same as LLM or vibe coding.

We should do better, and stop gatekeeping on real people solving real issues with the tools that allow them to code.

ChatGPT, Copilot, etc. do not teach *any* coding principles in the way those tools do, and it’s beneath any sensible person to suggest there is an equivalence here.

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Eric's Edge May 17

@europlus @bsletten @garymarcus
I agree that his examples are very tortured.
If you consider them as comparing bare metal machine coding vs environments that reduce the complexity by providing a framework to assist the developer, I can see a weak argument. Heck, assembly is assistive in that sense.
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Eric's Edge May 17

A better, and still weak example, might be paired programming with a very junior developer with great memory and little experience. The current level of LLM competency is more akin to “maybe try this?” rather than the performance I expect from human.
I’ve been experimenting a bit with vibe coding and have found it somewhat useful if my expectations are set properly.
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Eric's Edge

@europlus @bsletten @garymarcus when are they going to give us post editing?

@ericsedge @bsletten @garymarcus don’t you already have it? Masto has supported it for some time, @ivory certainly does.

@ericsedge @bsletten @garymarcus @ivory oh, that’s right, bitbang.social hasn’t been updated for ages.

@ericsedge @bsletten @garymarcus @ivory that’s weird, I’m seeing info saying Masto 4.0 allows editing (bitbang uses 4.0.15).

dan 💾May 17

@europlus @ericsedge Yup, bitbang has editing! We don't have search, and hashtags are a bit broken, but we do have post editing ;)