@jeffowski The assertion that Star Trek was never political is one of the most annoying things in sci-fi fandom.

Star Trek has *usually* been the quiet, understated, matter-of-fact kind of political. And often that's enough.

And then there's "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield," because sometimes you just want to beat the message into people's heads with a club.

@bmac @jeffowski my unified theory of ST and Dr Who is when the Dr Who writers watched the ep where Kirk and pals beam down to Morgulon 9 and meet the mud men, they missed the part where the mud men society was a (clear! political!) metaphor for fascism / racism / classism and instead thought the point was the sweet mud men costumes.

Don’t be like straw men Dr. Who writers! Trek has always been political!

Today is a good day to shout ‘trans rights are human rights’!

@heavyimage @bmac @jeffowski I'm confused is your implication here that Who isn't ‘political’?
@zbrown @bmac @jeffowski my impression from the small (10?) number of episodes I've seen is that the show is mostly about having adventures in space and time and that it's sort of a love letter to the camp that I think was the unintentional byproduct of very low sci-fi budgets. But I make the comparison to be silly and hyperbolic ("straw men") -- I'm sure there are great episodes that have things to say! No disrespect meant!

@heavyimage @zbrown @jeffowski

I would suggest that "The Happiness Patrol" is just about as subtle in its political commentary as "Last Battlefield," but you'd need to be familiar with 80s British politics for it to land.

Who has always been political, back to its origins, just like Trek.

(And the straw men were in the "Human Nature" / "Family of Blood" two-parter in 2007.)

@bmac @heavyimage @jeffowski subtle that one was not 🙈

I wonder as well if things like the jab at Boris/Tories in Joy to the World at Christmas are noticed outside of the UK (or even entirely noticed inside).

The ‘campness’ itself is arguably something of an anti-Thatcherism for that matter — it was a later addition to the show.