I grew up steeped in the "I would die for my country" or "I would die for my children" or "He died for our sins" where death was the ultimate showing of love...

...I have to sit with that.

But what I want to know is... Would you live for your country? Would you build for your children (and their children)? Would you help out your neighbor even if they don't follow your god?

Would you fix. Would you love. Would you grow, heal, and cherish for those around you?

Death is easy. Life is hard.

The greatest showing of love is to live and to help others live and to increase that quality of life.

@tinker @corbden I always saw it as a selfless act or sacrifice where one would “suffer greatly instead of being compliantly silent or actively collaborating with wrongness; a putting of oneself in the path of danger to spare the one /many from harm” instead of “the easy way out” of death where death is viewed as a release from suffering for the one at the expense of the other / many.
@semiotic_pirate @corbden - (Editing this response to address the idea professed.) Yeah, if that's their take, then my response is, "neat. So what will you do in the meantime. Between now and your valiant death?"
@tinker @semiotic_pirate I think Fjord is in agreement?
@corbden @semiotic_pirate - Maybe? I might have misread. If Fjord is in agreement, then my apologies. I would then direct my statement to anyone who supports that professed line of reasoning.