Ok, I need an alternative to Komoot for #CrossBorderRail 🚲🗺️ this summer

@spacehobo suggested cycle.travel that looks good, but on two shorter trips I’ll evaluate this and other options

NEEDS
- route planning and saving on a computer and easily on an iPhone
- ability to share routes with others with a link, and export routes as GEOjson or equiv file
- turn by turn navigation (I have an old iPhone on a handlebar mount)

IMPORTANT
- works anywhere in the EU, and Moldova and edge of Ukraine

IDEALLY
- community driven and/or open source

And sorry, solutions only in a web browser are unlikely good enough. An app based solution for saved routes strikes me as important.

And why am I leaving Komoot behind? As @osma documented, the founders sold out to big money enshittifiers 😭

Based on suggestions from a bunch of people, 3 apps are to be assessed more closely

cycle.travel
Ride with GPS
Organic Maps

First test: home to a friend’s place in a neighbouring village

There are two routes: a longer flat route along the canal, and a shorter hilly route on a road with cars

cycle.travel gives me the canal
The other two the hilly road

First win for cycle.travel

@jon I’m surprised no one suggested Mapy yet, maybe because offline maps are only available with a premium account (~€18/year) but I haven’t tested it thoroughly for your other requirements. @marekfort got me to install it and I like the place info and tour(ist) suggestions. Gives me nice route in your test case
@kupfers @marekfort oh the interface and map quality are so nice there! Will add to my list to assess.
@jon @kupfers can recommend :) they have recently started to push a bit more their premium plan, but not too aggressively (yet). They use OSM data except Czechia where they have a mix of OSM and their own data.
@marekfort @kupfers how are they as a company? Not too evil?
@jon @kupfers they are no saints, but for a relatively large tech company, I think they're fine. I don't know about any high-profile controversies and meaningful competition to Google is good (albeit they really compete mostly in the Czech market)