I didn't know

When I learned about the holocaust as teenager in Germany, many people from the Nazi era were still alive and lived all around me. Being the curious person I always was, I asked them about what happened and their role in it.

"I didn't know" was the boilerplate answer. And as they were relatives and friends, I believed them at first.

Then in 1981 we got a new teacher for history and he exposed the lie. Or more precise: he got us exposing those lies.

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We started out in school by analysing the murder of Friedrich Schumm on April 1st 1933. He was a jewish lawyer born in #Kiel and where his parents still lived. On the day of a visit at home due to the marriage of his little sister, the SS was enforcing a boycott of the shop his father was operating.

He wanted to the enter the shop of his father but was hindered by the SS picket. A short fight ensued, a shot rang out and a man from the SS was seriously injured. Schumm fled, presented himself at a police station and was arrested.

Later that day, a lynch mob compromised of members of the SA/SS formed. The ransacked the shop of his father and with the help of Nazi politicians they entered the prison and his cell. They shot him 30 times.

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Friedrich Schumm (Jurist) – Wikipedia

This didn't happen in secret. We went to the archive of the local newspaper and got articles about the event from back then. And it was all in there. The newspaper (which still exists today) stumbled over his own feet in order to justify the lynching. I couldn't believe what I was reading: "We strongly condemn any lynching but this case was clearly justified". The newspaper argued against any prosecution of the lynch mob. They said that "gesundes Volksempfinden" (healthy popular sentiment) made the event inevitable.

It was a huge story back then that dominated the news for quite so time. It was not hidden on the second page, but the top news of the month. There were quotes from local Nazi politicians who claimed to be proud of the deed. All was there in broad daylight. The SS wasn't even attempting to hide it.

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So knowing what we knew, we went out to ask people who were adults at the time of the deed. We asked them where they were living and which newspaper they had back then. After establishing that, we started asking about the murder.

And again we got the famous "I didn't know" again and again. We had copies of the newspaper from the incident and confronted them with it. They stuck to it. Nobody knew anything at all. The thing happened, became top news and nobody ever even heard of it.

They became angry at us for asking. Sometimes we were chased away. This was because we clearly noticed that they were lyiing and being teenager, we were not good at hiding the fact that we knew.

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The frustrating thing about history is: When you study it, you see it all happening again. When one day the grandchildren of the young adults in the U.S. today will ask "Why didn't you say something when they deported innocent people to camps in El Salvador?" I can already tell their answer today "I didn't know."

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Remark: I had ONE instance where someone confessed about a thing he did in that time.

It was a neighbor who (while heavily drunk) confessed that he beat up his old jewish teacher as an act of revenge and that he knew, he would get away with it.

@masek
You know, its like facing some beast. You (more likely) survive if you see nothing. This was the attribute in the past how IT selected. And now you try to claim the result, as wrong. Cause it is and ever was.
But like GPT heuristic, the good and wrong, 1 and 0 is not sufficient available an a full spec world.
I like religion. Sometimes we need to forgive, sometimes punish. Later learn and talk about. They try to exploit democracy or dismantle legislation?! Punish them - its a Nogo.
@masek Thank you for elaboating on that specific piece of sad human history. And yes, history repeats itself, but always with a twist.

@masek

Excellent thread. Thanks

And that last remark shows the huge allure of these fascistic movements. They allow anyone to feel empowered, so long as they support the leader's tribe. And at a time when the dangers are so serious and pervasive, who doesn't want to feel that empowerment?

@masek

He must have been very drunk indeed.

One time a woman told me that she knew nothing because "as a young mother, she'd been kept away from current events."

She had exactly one child, in 1940, in case you are wondering.

@masek And additionally:
@boby_biq @masek And sadly the ones who are white and conventionally attractive and gender conforming and not socially awkward will be believed more than those who were actually in the streets doing their best to fight it.
@PedestrianError @masek This is a very strange comment, ngl.
@boby_biq @masek I mean that humanity is unfortunately wired to believe people based on how well they fit in and follow trends rather than the actual work they do and that has never served us well either during crises or in our attempts to collectively learn from them after the fact.

@PedestrianError @masek Oh I get it. Phew.
I read your comment very differently. Yes.

That book is actually about liberal western hypocrisy regarding Gaza.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2025/feb/14/one-day-everyone-will-have-always-been-against-this-by-omar-el-akkad-review-a-cathartic-savaging-of-western-hypocrisy-over-gaza

One Day, Everyone Will Have Always Been Against This by Omar El Akkad review – a cathartic savaging of western hypocrisy over Gaza

The novelist and reporter delivers a passionate indictment of complacent liberal responses to Israel’s brutal campaign

The Guardian
@boby_biq @PedestrianError @masek it is, however, not an unlikely one. After the war, when it became clear most resistance people would not return from the camps. New "resistance fighters" none of the returnees ever heard of, came out of all nooks and crannies. The survivors, dealing with their trauma, never got the better of them, nor of the post war narrative.

@Libby_ @PedestrianError Yea, the title of the book refers to this, actually.

Re: the comment I replied to- I misunderstood it but it’s clear now.

@masek

I had your thread summarized and posted it on Fediverse. I hope that's ok from your side. It's important and needs to be spread.

https://feddit.org/post/11169560

I didn't know - A mastodon thread from Martin Seeger - feddit.org

This is a thread summarised with Mastoreader about the beginning of Nazi socialism and the parallels to the present day. About collective forgetting. Since I don’t know how stable the Mastoreader is, I have also archived [https://archive.ph/EvTnl] the thread again.

@Guenter_S Absolutely fine with me ...