Jon WorthApr 20, 2025

Ok, I need an alternative to Komoot for #CrossBorderRail šŸš²šŸ—ŗļø this summer

@spacehobo suggested cycle.travel that looks good, but on two shorter trips Iā€™ll evaluate this and other options

NEEDS
- route planning and saving on a computer and easily on an iPhone
- ability to share routes with others with a link, and export routes as GEOjson or equiv file
- turn by turn navigation (I have an old iPhone on a handlebar mount)

Show threadJon WorthApr 20, 2025

IMPORTANT
- works anywhere in the EU, and Moldova and edge of Ukraine

IDEALLY
- community driven and/or open source

And sorry, solutions only in a web browser are unlikely good enough. An app based solution for saved routes strikes me as important.

And why am I leaving Komoot behind? As @osma documented, the founders sold out to big money enshittifiers šŸ˜­

Show threadJon WorthApr 20, 2025

Based on suggestions from a bunch of people, 3 apps are to be assessed more closely

cycle.travel
Ride with GPS
Organic Maps

Show threadSellaTheChemist
@jon Iā€™ve been wondering whether the US administration will suddenly accuse the world of freeloading on GPS and suddenly turn it off. Just imagineā€¦
Apr 20, 2025 at 5:41pmMastodon for iOS
Show threadSellaTheChemistApr 20, 2025
@jon Maybe you should look at some Galileo apps. Iā€™ve been wondering which one to use. Just in case.
Show threadJon PENNYCOOKApr 20, 2025
@sellathechemist @jon They tried that during the Gulf War, only to find that so many US military people had bought commercial GPS receivers. Then again, the Americans threatened to use Galileo (European GNSS) satellites as target practice at one point.
Show threadSellaTheChemistApr 20, 2025
@jonpsp @jon If you start taking shots at satellites the amount of microdebris is orbit will completely change the risk profile for every satellite up there. It seems unwise. But then again, nothing these guys are doing seems to give any thought to consequences.