[PSA] If things start feeling too toxic around here, remember that the 'block' button is your friend and always there for you.

https://dubvee.org/post/3175618

[PSA] If things start feeling too toxic around here, remember that the 'block' button is your friend and always there for you.

I get it. There's some real jerks around here. Whether they're constantly argumentative, donwright rude, always acting in bad faith, just plain trolls, overly opinionated on every subject, have the social skills of a Naussican, etc. The Fediverse is growing, and it's bound to attract toxicity in one way or another. This post is mostly a PSA for anyone who's feeling like leaving because they're tired of dealing with things like that. I've been there several times myself, and I know how you feel. Just remember that blocking is a very powerful way to stay in control of your experience. Be it a set of users, a community, or an entire instance: if it's causing you nothing but stress, hit that block button and see if that improves your experience here. Unlike the alien site, there is no limit to the number of entities you can block; you're in control. Another thing to keep in mind is different instances have different vibes, and the experience can totally differ depending on the instance's moderation and federation policy. In conclusion, your experience here can be what you make of it; don't be afraid to just block the parts that stress you out. You're not 'creating an echo chamber' as everyone likes to say (often in bad faith) -- you're just taking care of yourself.

I use the block button like hideki kamiya uwu
I’ve yet to block anyone here and the only one I had blocked on Reddit was Gallowboob.
Well that’s a name I haven’t heard in a long time.
It’s very disappointing that Lemmy was only good for a brief period of time. RIP.
Yeah, why do considerate mods like OP have to wade in and tell others they can just block you? Wotta revoltin' development. /s
The cool thing about Lemmy is when the funko pop collecting morons start to pile on, it’s super easy to just create a new account like a snake sheds it’s skin. Block all you want buckaroo.
I found that a total of like 5 people post basically all of the lemmynsfw stuff. Once I blocked them, it almost all went away. Pretty sure the internet is nothing but bots now.

Everything now is rage-bait designed to get more clicks

IMO the greatest strength of the Fediverse is the increased number of mods and admins looking at everything. Don’t want rage bait? Join an instance that has rules against it.

Nah fuck that. Mods are power hungry fat morons who exert the editorial discretion of a wet noodle. Almost every community in the fediverse is full of this crap. Things aren’t removed because they’re harmful, they’re removed because some mod disagrees.

Almost every community in the fediverse is full of this crap. Things aren’t removed because they’re harmful, they’re removed because some mod disagrees.

You should start your own instance it sounds like :P

Why? It’s too much bandwidth, too much upkeep, I already moded/ran communities larger than lemmy; I DON’T want to do it again, especially if I’m paying out of pocket for it.
Isn’t lemmynsfw automatically blocked on LW? I don’t see any posts from lemmynsfw.
Nope. They’re federated, so no reason they wouldn’t show unless you turn all NSFW stuff off.
I just blocked the instance entirely. I’m not interested in seeing porn browsing lemmy, and I doubt the people who made an account on the porn community are posting the most enlightening non porn stuff.
I’m okay with seeing it from time to time - but when my /all would get flooded with PAGES, and PAGES of the stuff with no normal articles in between, I started muting those users.
That’s one of the benefits of the smaller community here too, the block button actually feels like it does something. If you’re frustrated by comments that add nothing to anything or are fishing for drama etc, a short commitment to blocking repeat offenders really improves things quickly

I'd add "report" to that advice. If somebody is outright being jerks, that is probably against your instance's rules — and if it isn't, there are plenty others to choose from.

Blocking helps you, but reporting people (or instances) that are just here to troll will help others.

True. If it’s report-worthy, absolutely. But there are certainly accounts that aren’t violating any rules but can still be a source of stress. Those are often the “rules lawyer” type who knows exactly how to stay right on the line without crossing it.

Counterpoint is that if that person is finally banned, they’re 9 times out of 10 just going to spin up a new alt and start back up with the same shtick. If everyone just blocks them, they’re just shouting into the wind wondering why no one’s taking their bait. I dislike how Reddit had “shadow bans”, but I can see how they would be effective when used surgically.

Temp bans (a couple of days), work too. If they’re actually trolling, they usually won’t come back. Then just temp ban the next alt if they do, repeat.
Good to know, and yeah, kind of matches what I’ve observed. I tend to permaban outright trolls, but yeah, they usually spin up a new account and never come back to that, so it’s probably overkill. I guess I just don’t like leaving the door open for them to come back…just in case lol.
For me, I temp ban because it makes it more easy to do. I don’t wrestle with whether or not I’m doing the right thing. Instead, I know it’s only temp so no one was harmed if I make a mistake. It’s more for me to take out the trolls early on.
I agree with this 100%. The mods can’t get rid of the bad guys if they don’t know about them. There are very few mods for relatively big communities, help them out if you see something going bad. They might not agree with you, but it’s still good practice if people aren’t following the rules.
You’re very right. Blocking when they are being an asshole is just putting your head in the sand. It might feel petty but remember that others are probably also impacted by their shitty behaviour.
Agreed. I report bad behavior where I see it. I’ve only blocked one person, becausen they took a downvote as a personal attack and started DMing me.
I read all reports on my instance (i get reports on our users and from our users, too; so i see quite a lot) rest assured, all your reports actually do something.

Also, voyager lets you tag users which is a godsend.

If I notice someone who is unnecessarily rude, dodgy opinions, bigoted or something, I add a tag, and if I see it is constant repetitive behaviour, I’ll block them.

Thunder too, installed it specifically for user tags!
I hope they bring that to Lemmy overall, it will make for a much better experience for everyone. Mobile is really hard to mod from.
Would be a great selling point over centralized alternatives too. “take control of your own experience” and all that. Reddit will never be able to achieve that level
Reddit Executive Suite (RES) was amazing for that. I’ve been gone so long that I’m not sure it works anymore.
It appears to be still working on old.reddit. I no longer have an account there, but occasionally check on communities I miss here and RES still seems to be chugging away.
Reddit Enhancement Suite does still work, they just had to break a few features from the api thingy.
There is a voyager frontend on web. But I think it’s only a mobile view vger.app/posts/lemm.ee/all
Voyager for Lemmy

Voyager is a beautiful mobile web client for Lemmy. Enjoy a seamless experience browsing the fediverse.

No it works on desktop as well.
I never realized that Thunder has something for it, because there is zero UI for it as far as i can see. There is just the list in the settings that you can manually add people to. This doesnt do anything however… I expected the label to show up next to the username or something but it just doesnt.

If you long press on a comment for actions and then hit “user”, you see the option to add a label at the bottom of that menu.

A bit hidden, I agree, but very useful.

Oooh okay it shows up only on comments of the tagged person. I was looking at posts and their profile. Thanks for the quick guide.

Boost has user tagging as well.

Only issue is the tag and report dialogs look exactly alike and multiple times I’ve unknowingly clicked report in error. I’m kinda surprised I never got criticised for abusing the report function when all I’ve written is “pro-russia” or “idiot”

You can also track aggregate up and down votes per user! You’re a solid +13 for me, you’re cool.
Why give people a second chance to hurt you? Just block away!
One comment does not a whole commenter make! I’ve had a few cases where someone acts poorly on one post, but is usually a conscientious and interesting commenter. Personally, I want to see more conversation, so I’m hesitant to ban people, but if your math is different, that’s fine!

If you disagree with someone or someone tells you that you’re wrong you can just immediately block them with no effort.

People are so used to being able to instantly ignore anybody that they never develop the skills to deal with people disagreeing with them or having support an argument.

It’s a self-reinforcing cycle.

Yeah, adults should be able to tell the difference between someone disagreeing with them and someone being rude/trolling.

I don’t think I ever needed to block anyone, but I kinda stopped commenting as much nowadays cause I realized a lot of times people just don’t understand something and say things out of ignorance + pretentiousness, immediately attacking whoever correct what they’re saying. I don’t think there’s a way out of that in these kinds of open discussion threads, unfortunately, because it’s not exactly bad faith.

It’s not bad faith, it’s just a learned behavior that’s antisocial.

Outrageous comments are heavily rewarded in public social media where everyone is pseudo-anonymous. At the same time, almost nobody wants to be the person on the receiving end of outrageous takes.

We’re rewarding the wrong behaviours.

I think it’s also easy to misinterpret something on one post. A lot of times something that looked bigoted or dodgy opinion was just poorly done sarcasm or something.

Because then I can’t downvote and report them for future harmful behavior.

I do tag them so I know not to engage.

it does? i don’t see that option anywhere.
Huh? Could you kindly tell where the option is? I can’t find it?
you have to enable it first under settings-> User Tags
You’re the real MVP, thank you very much!!
I recently had someone I already had tagged as “racist” replying to me with some misogyny, clicked on his profile and found him defending the R slur. Because instances are smaller, it’s actually feasible to message instance admins when there is someone like that too.
Okay I am gonna bite. What is the R slur?
Why the R-Word Is the R-Slur

Practice Inclusion: End the Use of the R-Word

SpecialOlympics.org

Cw r slur

spoiler

Retard

How do you add a tag? I’m on voyager and can’t see the option. Sorry for my ignorance!
I’m on Thunder and I just labeled you as “taught me that users can be labeled”