Redditsux‘He Is A Criminal!’ AOC Calls Trump Everything From Rapist To Stock Cheat In Rally Speech
ZerlynaI support this message. Hope she doesn’t get deported.
She will 100% but maybe that what need to be so a real revolution start because the peaceful protest don't do shit to stop fascist
Too bad people couldn’t be bothered to vote last year.
But the Democrats didn’t offer them a pony
ByteJunkDo I need to change my name to name-name-3digits to join your trollfarm?
Oh no. Don’t group me with those people please
based on your comment history… its ok, you’re cool. :)
Haha this feels like the poor folks who end their username with their birth year being 88.
Not all is random name 3 letters are trolls.
swab148Can confirm. No pony was offered and several people on here loudly proclaimed they would be allowing trump to win because of it.
“Entwine” is one word…
I think it’s ent wine, but I just use the email alias that my provider generates for me when I change accounts and instances every few months for a layer of anonymity.
I guess I piss off ByteData enough that he’s noticed the pattern my provider uses, but didn’t notice that once I switch accounts I never use the old one again.
Plus, I’m probably not the only one who does this.
But could you imagine Ent wine? Like, what does a tree get drunk on?
Fermented orc blood. Distilled for a really good time. There was a really good vintage out of the East recently.
I think you might have me confused with someone else. I do have 4-5 accounts on different instances, but only because I abandon my current one every few months and use my email provider to generate a new alias for a new instance and use the alias as my username. This is for anonymity purposes, but I guess my writing style is unique enough that you could follow me. I need to step up my game.
It does follow the pattern you noticed, but I’m sure I’m not the only user who does this. And I never re-visit an account once I make a new one.
The left:
If we don’t give voters what they want, we’re gonna end up with fascism.
Fascists:
Take over a country because “moderates” fight the left harder than fascism
“Moderates”:
Why dont we just blame the left again?
I understand why this shit worked when everyone got the same MSM which always fights the left, but how people are repeating this nonsense in 2025 is behind me
Do you legitimately not understand what’s happening now?
Because it’s literally the same way Nazis came to power the first time; “moderates” fighting the left
Absolutely incredible to acknowledge that voters chose fascism because the alternative wasn’t perfect enough, yet still act like they’re blameless.
Yes
The voters weren’t given a good enough choice to hold their nose for the 4th time in a row…
You’re acting like people just chose this election to sit out and havent been disenfranchised for (for the majority of Dem voters) their entire lives.
Because for you personally, things haven’t been that bad and refused to help anyone else because “what are they gonna do, vote Republican?”
Completely ignorant of how voting works and that the result would just be checking out of politics and not voting. Which when enough Americans do, Republicans win elections
You didn’t want to help anyone, and now you’re mad the people you weren’t going to help no matter who won the election didn’t help you
As I told someone else, the solution is helping everyone so people will be motivated to vote because they have something to lose.
Like, how the fuck does someone make it to 2025 and realize that people with nothing to lose act like they have nothing to lose?
The “moderate” wing followed the same playbook that got Hitler elected by fighting the left harder than they fight the right…
And are now acting shocked when the same result happened.
So you’re mad at everyone that warned you like people in the 1500s burning a woman for being a witch because she said a storm was coming.
Fucking ridiculous mate. But at least you feel self important, that’s what matters to some people I guess.
Are you fucking suggesting we held our nose to vote for President Obama?
In 2012 I did, most of my friends at the time did.
Was glad to vote for him in 08 tho, even tho I was in the military and we literally got lined up to have a senior officer tell us voting D was voting against giving all of us a pay raise.
But by 2012…
I voted for the least evil option and have in every general election ever since.
Maybe you had no issues with him, but how is it surprising that some people felt let down by 2010, let alone 2012?
You didn’t have any friends back then who were already disillusioned?
I guess you might have just still been in school back then and weren’t paying attention. I know when I was a kid I thought Bill Clinton was great, it wasn’t till I grew up that I saw more than his MTV appearances or when he had “sexual relations” with an intern.
I did learn that the coverup is worse than the crime though from all that.
Both of your post were refreshing to read
People are dumb emotional animal, and propaganda works. Bitching about this fact won’t change it. We live in a system where everyone gets to vote, even the stupid. If you as a politician fail to appeal to everyone, regardless of intelligence, then you are the one to blame.
I wouldn’t vote for a politician that appealed to everyone because that would mean they did things I fond reprehensible.
If you keep returning to this argument rather than uniting to fight fascism, aren’t you doing the same thing as people that didn’t vote/voted for a 3rd party?
You’re intentionally shifting the argument back to blaming leftists to justify your own morality rather than addressing the current situation, which is dealing with the immediate threat of full blown fascism.
Or eggs.
At this point, I assume anyone still harping on this is a conservative provocative looking to stir up division.
The truth is it’s possible for more than one group to be at fault. Those who stayed home have a ton of blame, the centrist dipshits at the DNC have a ton of blame, and the Republicans themselves have the most blame of all.
Quit trying to sew division. We need unity now, not to rehash old grievances.
Oh FUCKING NOW we need unity?!
Fuck you people forever.
no, you’re doing unity wrong
“Taking a stand against genocide” = pony. Got it.
Well, now we have genocide in the US, so how did taking that stand work out?
You alright?
I can’t speak for the other person, but no. Not at all.
Lol were LMAO? Stop cheapening the meaning of words
I mean, neither side took a stand against genocide, so any would-be progressive who sought to “punish” the Democrats by not voting for them over this gets as much sympathy from me as all the regressive dipshits whose faces keep getting eaten by leopards. Every vote that wasn’t cast for the “genocidal” Democrats was a vote cast for the genocidal and also fascist white nationalist party.
How’s it feel knowing you’ve got a great view of 'Murrica openly trying to emulate 1930s Germany from the saddle of your moral high horse?
Straw man. I voted for Harris.
How does it feel knowing you facilitated fascism by refusing to hold establishment democrats’ feet to the fire so they would adopt a platform for people instead of billionaires?
Yes, it was totally the fault of random people (especially citizens of another country like me) who didn’t push the Dems to be more progressive that got Trump the win… because all the people who voted the orange shitstain totally would’ve swung left if the left party had been more left. Makes perfect sense.
Yes. Here you are throwing progressives under the bus. Blaming them for democrats losing (time and time again) when reality shows progressive ideas have broad support. Polls show Bernie would have beat Donald in 2016, but we had to have Hilary, whose slogan was “I’m with her” because she had no platform. Well, not a public one, and not one that would actually help anyone with fewer than seven digits in their net worth. She’s literally says as much in her book What Happened where she says over and over that every proposed platform plank sounded great but was shot down because it involved transferring some (small amount of) money from the rich to the poor.
The democrats are the party of billionaires just as much as republicans, they’re just less overtly racist.
Their centrism (really, steady rightward march) is literally killing us.
You chose the genocide harder option. How did that help anyone?
Citation needed.
The Democrats are constantly cutting their own hamstrings by courting the conservatives base rather than their own base. That’s why they always lose. Too many Chuck Schumers, not enough AOCs. The mainstream dems can’t stop suckling the corporate teet long enough to notice they’re getting played.
When trump was president the first time, we all agreed it was bad and things needed fixed.
A large amount of Dem voters held their nose and voted Biden because he was the only option and even Biden was better than trump…
But instead of fixing anything, Biden just tried to gaslight America that things were fine, and didn’t actually fix anything despite having the House and Senate like trump does.
Then Biden held on to the last possible moment so there wouldn’t be a primary, tried to hand the nomination to an even more historically unpopular VP who couldn’t win, and she said she wouldn’t do anything different, except putting a Republican in her cabinet.
So you can blame voters not voting.
But it just sounds like a shady car salesman bitching no one will buy his lemons.
It’s the literal and only job for a candidate and their campaign team to win an election. We can’t blame primary voters for picking a bad option, they had no say in who the candidate was.
This is bigger than your ego being wrong about what voters will put up with
We can’t afford to deny reality so you feel better about your unpopular opinions about what Dem voters want.
It can simultaneously be true that the democrats did a god awful job campaigning, and that people are fucking idiots for not voting for them.
If Kamala would have won the neoliberals would have maintained control of the DNC another four years, would have squashed the primary again, and we’d have been stuck voting for someone we don’t want who won’t fix anything for 8 years…
Shit is too bad to keep not fixing it.
It would have been kicking the can down the road another couple years and we’d be in the same scenario again. Meanwhile the wealthy would continue winning and 99% of us would keep losing.
Maybe it wasn’t bad for you till now, maybe you’d even be fine waiting a decade before we fixed anything…
But most Americans weren’t
Getting upset that they didn’t care about you after decades not caring about them makes you look at best uninformed about the entire last 50 years of American political history.
So…
How about you stop bitching that the people you wouldn’t help didn’t help you and start working with everyone else that needs help.
That’s the way to actually get anyone help, if you’re not in board, don’t be surprised when no one wants to listen to you
Yep. If millions of immigrants have to be deported to concentration camps so we can have a revolution, then that’s just the cost of doing business.
So true bestie, glad we voted in a fascist so we don’t have to worry about elections at all anymore. Really stuck it to those pesky libs.
Maybe you voted for trump, but I held my nose like I always do.
Crazy you all think everyone explaining why Kamala lost didn’t vote for her.
Like, I guess it makes sense tho, without the empathy to understand why some people couldn’t or wouldn’t hold their nose, you also can’t understand how anyone else can empathize with them.
To someone like that, it would make sense why they’d assume anyone explaining this didn’t vote D.
It’s sad, but thanks to empathy I can understand why you’re saying the things you’re saying, and why you can’t understand anything that’s happening
but I held my nose like I always do.
Leftist card revoked, you are now a collaborator.
Ooo, someone learned a new vocab word.
I hope your empathy feels great when the fascist boot presses against your neck. I have zero empathy for the confidently incorrect.
We know
EmpireInDecayThey didn’t do a bad job campaigning, they told us exactly who they are, barely left of trump Republicans
Remind me how many times Biden violated the constitution?
Don’t get me wrong champ, shit needed to change, but you do see how the situation now is a lot fuckin worse? Right?
Biden just tried to gaslight America that things were fine, and didn’t actually fix anything
You spell “things were slowly improving from disaster” and “didn’t allow america to slide into recession as we emerge from global 100-year pandemic” weird.
I love how this ‘gaslight’ lie is itself a gaslight. Sorry Stein lost, but she couldn’t have won, and wasn’t supposed to. She was funded to fool you and others into forgetting it was really a binary choice, and your split votes allowed Republicans to win. Take the win.
Almost all the recovery went to the owner class, and you’re fucking blaming the working class for noticing. Quit your bullshit.
Almost all the recovery went to the owner class under Biden, so let’s elect Trump and transfer EVERYTHING to the owner class.
¯\\_(ツ)_/¯
When the status quo sucks, any chance at improvement—even a dubious one—starts to look good. That’s why it was so fucking essential for the Democrats to pivot left economically, not (just) socially! But they abjectly refused, because in their heart of hearts neoliberals are aligned with the capitalist owner class and thus would rather have a fascist dictatorship than a socialist democracy.
Under Biden, economic inequality decreased for the first time in a generation.
But you dumb shits absolutely refused to believe it. Because propaganda fucking works.
Or maybe they were looking at their own lives and the lives of people around them? After decades of gaslighting from both parties it’s no wonder that Americans don’t trust the statistics they are offered.
Biden did do a lot of economic good and it’s true that income inequality was reduced on his watch. However it wasn’t the kind of fundamental change required for most people to actually experience it in their lives.
Marginal changes around the edges also don’t add up to any kind of narrative that Democrats can use to drive participation. Trump supplied a narrative that Biden could use against him in 2020 but, by 2024 that story was old. The narrative around Trump in 2024 looked more like a classic hero arc than the classic Bond villain he was in 2020. The Democrat’s narrative was about technocratic competence, something I appreciate but not terribly engaging. Biden’s debate performance and late withdrawal also ran counter to that story.
It might sound silly or flippent to talk about narratives, but anybody in marketing will tell you that the narratives around a product usually matter more than the qualities of the product itself. There are effective narratives that Democrats could use, but those narratives cast wealthy Democratic donors among the villains, and most don’t have the courage or integrity to do that.
the oniony layers of gaslighting are incredible here: the republicans won because the democrats didn’t vote. there aren’t enough split voters to even cover the gulf of voters that the democrats lost anymore and they lost it because of their support for the genocide.
When I don’t like the deal my car dealer offers, I tell him no, and I leave.
When I don’t like the deal the democrats offer, I tell them no, and I call anyone on Lemmy who supports them a fascist. And I don’t care who calls me a tankie, I stand with Russia!
But instead of fixing anything
When we showed you literally how he was fixing things, you LITERALLY DENIED REALITY AND CALLED IT FAKE NEWS.
You people are a cult just as bad as MAGA, and serve the same ends.
People voted, but the MAGA Nazis rigged the election, and we ALL know it. Too bad the Democratic leadership decided to help the MAGA Nazis cover it up, and declare that they won “fair & square.” Rich Democrats like Schumer can be bought as easily as any Republican.
So, the MAGAs didn’t rig the election in 2020 and let Biden win, and then when they were out of power decided to steal it? You contradict yourself.