Students disappearing off the streets into unmarked vans isn’t a “scandal," it’s straight up terrorism and the media is too chicken-shit to say that.
@godpod The term of art in Solzhenitsyn's book "Gulag Archipelago" for the vehicle used in these snatch-and-grabs is "Black Maria".
@karlauerbach @godpod That was the term in the English-speaking word in the 19th century.

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i’ll try to think of a nicer way to say it. civility is so important, don't you think?

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@thegarbagebird @godpod Well, I've been beaten by police and seen police murder a naked person, so I understand strong words. And I can understand the anger of those who have been on the receiving end of police and maga/white-nationalist/racist terrorism.

A big chunk of my extended family died at the hands of the Nazis in Germany and Poland.

(I am rather a fan of Emerson's comment about using words as hard as cannon balls. It is my sense that euphemisms lead to ambiguity and can fuel a dispute that shouldn't have happened in the first place. On the other hand, our words are almost always ambiguous so some explanatory words to clarify anticipated uncertainty can be useful as well.)

By-the-way, I once ran face-to-face, in the dar, with a person in a full dress KKK outfit, slapping an aluminum baseball bat against his palm. Scary!! (And I knew who it was - it was back stage on a play about Marcus Garvey that I was working on. And under the costume he was [and certainly still is] black.)

@karlauerbach oh I'm with you and emerson, when it comes to speaking with conviction, my difficulty is one of aim. when my blood is up i speak carelessly, which can also fuel disputes.
also i am prone to casual profanity which can be off-putting.

i am in the process of clarifying my thoughts, it may come to nothing worth saying.
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This is something I'd expect to see in parts of Germany from 1933-1989.

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Useful tip from a woman who lived in Pinochet's Chile: in a city, walk up against the buildings rather than the street. That gives you a half-second head start and a chance to run away.

@godpod absolutely. The word terrorism was not invented to refer to non-state actors. It was to describe a state applying terror to their population.
@godpod everything they are currently doing are test cases. They are weeding out decent people from the media and law enforcement namely
@godpod They don’t want to be next.
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so they'll settle for being the one after the next, or maybe yhe one after that!
Not a great plan.
@oberstenzian thus ensuring that they'll be grabbed eventually.
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I've seen a few pics here of people getting "disappeared" and am wondering if maybe someone was to tail the grabbers to their homes then name and shame, with photos if possible, would that be seen as dissent, or illegal, or whatever...
Just asking for a few disappeared folk.
@godpod No, it's not terrorism, it's a fascist police state. Use the right words. If you don't use the right words to qualify this, you make it harder to understand what's happening and harder the struggle against it.
@godpod it's also a violation of the US Constitution
@godpod I hope that they encounter the wrong person and all the agents are killed. That would be something.

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I forget what context I learned this in, but if you are being disappeared you yell your name and that you are being taken against your will.
That way your family and friends can find out what happened to you and approximately where you were taken.

@godpod about time for our American friends to get acquainted with the concept of collaborators.
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I thought terrorism was picketing a tesla dealer...