riley 🐲🎶
jcoglanvarious people been saying this for a while but it cannot be overstated how much using ai art on your podcast/blog/slides/etc visually associates you with fascism https://newsocialist.org.uk/transmissions/ai-the-new-aesthetics-of-fascism/
the italian futurism of our era
this is in part down to its propensity to serve up thomas kinkade style sentimental nostalgic slop that recalls exactly the sort of fictionalised past that fascist rhetoric is built on
grechaw@jcoglan It fits! This book from long ago - its cover has a certain something that could emerge from an AI today.
/usr/CMDR ░ NOVA :~$@jcoglan a key fascist point is the destruction of the arts, so it makes sense they’d love the concept of generative “art”
Renato Ramonda@cmdr_nova @jcoglan plus, most artists despise them and wouldn't want to work with them anyway.
So they made an art stealing machine that produces slop that's good enough for the fash taste (that is, it's crap).
LR@jcoglan or will very soon.
Kaare Mikkelsen@jcoglan i think that's in the eye of the beholder... When I see a PhD student do a presentation about sleeping habits of mice or whatever and they have an ai generated image of a sleeping computer mouse, I think accusing them of sympathizing with fascism is a bit much...
Roamin' Chemicals@miturian @jcoglan When I see someone use AI in a context like that I don't immediately assume they're a fascist either, but I do think of them as dangerously uncritical of a technology that disproportionately benefits fascists to an extreme degree. It's also short-sighted for a researcher to promote use of plagiarism machines like that. I wonder how those PhD. students would feel seeing their research results attributed to ChatGPT?
diaeter@jcoglan Erm... wutt?
Riley S. Faelan@diaeter You see, (current) genAI is about replicating the æsthetics of art that has already been done, without giving any thought to its broader social context, and fascism is about exactly the same thing. There's not necessarily a link between AI techniques as such and fascism; it's just that fascism is the fruit of a special kind of stupidity, and the current bleeding edge of genAI research resembles a lot that very same kind of stupidity.
@riley It pretty much resembles reproduction of average and mostly mediocrity,as all fascists are mediocre to the max and think that's superior.
@jcoglan Calling AI art "mechanically produced" shows a frightening lack of undertsanding...
@jcoglan It's the new aesthetics, fascists use...
Bron LarnerSome very interesting points.
Aurora 🏳️🌈 :Dahlia-Unicode-Pink:@jcoglan This was such a an excellent read, thank you for posting this. I'm already sending this everywhere.