A Tesla Cybertruck sinks in a Southern California harbor

Elon Musk tweeted in 2022 that the Cybertruck "will be waterproof enough to serve briefly as a boat." But a Cybertruck did not float in Ventura Harbor.

Los Angeles Times

How exactly do you "accidentally" go into reverse?

"The driver told Shevitz that he meant to put the vehicle in drive after launching a Jet Ski but accidentally threw it in reverse, causing it to slide down the ramp and into the water. " #cybertruck #tesla #accident

@ai6yr Have you driven a Tesla? It's surprisingly easy. In fact, it will put itself into reverse if it senses that's what you want to do...
@sfoskett Oh my. Indeterminate driving direction, LOL. It's a gamble! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4K3NE_MNMQ
Driver Controls | Cybertruck Essentials

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@sfoskett I wonder, based on the accident reports, if "I'd like to drive 100mph down the street and crash into a tree" is in the AI training data as "driver desires"

@ai6yr @sfoskett "It went straight into that ditch! Then it reversed! Then it did it again! Then it reversed again!"

"How long has this been going on?"

"Twenty minutes, at least."

"The driver can't get out?"

"He keeps screaming at the dashboard something about not missing a payment."

"Once disagreed with Elon on social media?"

"I guess."

@ai6yr He's a Cybertruck owner. How smart do you think he is?
@driusan @ai6yr I'm pretty sure shifting is a touch screen thing on the CT, so he fat fingered the shift operation, and didn't check himself, and that was when he found out...

@mhkohne @driusan @ai6yr Remember, Mitch McConnell's sister-in-law drowned after accidentally shifting her car into reverse and driving into a pond: https://www.businessinsider.com/angela-chao-death-tesla-accident-reverse-gearshift-issues-2024-3

Touchscreens are not a safe interface for things like shifting between drive and reverse.

Angela Chao's death reveals Tesla's long-standing reverse gear issues

Before Angela Chao's fatal Tesla accident, feds had years of complaints about gearshifting, which some said led to confusion and unintended reversing.

Business Insider

@unlambda @mhkohne @driusan 😬

Also, if that happens and the doors short out and you are stuck inside, you are SO IN TROUBLE. There's no way you are going to find the manual in the dark, find a flashlight, read the instructions to find the emergency egress/door handle 😬

@ai6yr @unlambda @driusan Between that and the touch-screen only, I vowed never to even ride in a Tesla long ago. If something goes wrong, those things are death traps.
@mhkohne @ai6yr @unlambda I don't understand how the UK is the only place that's banned them for being unsafe
@driusan @ai6yr @unlambda @mhkohne but the UK hasn’t banned Teslas?
@Setok @ai6yr @unlambda @mhkohne not Teslas but more specifically Cybertrucks aren't legal in the UK for being unsafe.
@driusan @ai6yr @unlambda @mhkohne they aren’t legal in the EU either really, so I’m not sure there’s much of a difference. Individual registration and registry as a light truck perhaps, but those are kind of exceptions everywhere. EU homologation at least doesn’t appear to be possible with the current design, though it’s a bit unclear what the definitive issues are.
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I'd have to see the gear setup, but it's not farfetched.
@ai6yr it might also have been the AI system. Tesla nowadays has an AI which guesses which way you want to go so you don’t have to switch (and switching is annoyingly done on a touch screen). I hated that on the new Model 3 (used to have an older Model 3).
@Setok So you're saying perhaps the AI wanted to kill the human driving? Didn't it hear, it's not quite time yet for the AI to overthrow humanity!!! 🤪
@ai6yr interesting concerns about lithium ion batteries and salt water. It's a controversial topic among boaters. I have a friend who swears by them (to be fair I think he uses LFP and he says Tesla is using those in Malaysia), but most of the people I've talked to are terrified of them (you might even suspect that sailors are "superstitious")
@swart I know people are fans of LFP, but I agree on the hesitance to adopt anything with "Lithium" on it... given the tendency for those to be fairly catastrophic fires, and catastrophic fires on a boat are very bad
@ai6yr worst thing that could happen I expect, certainly worse than sharks :)
@swart Yes, sharks are better than fires on boats, by far. At least you have a chance with the sharks!
@ai6yr U-boat? More like X-boat, but everyone still calls it Twitter-boat
If you can’t burn ‘em, drown ‘em!