Jeff Fortin T. (風の庭園のNekohayo)Feb 27, 2025

For those worried about what's going on with #Mozilla's new T&C for #Firefox and seeking alternatives to Blink-based browsers (aka Chrome-in-a-trenchcoat), consider helping @WebKitGTK (a port of @webkit), used by apps throughout the FreeDesktop.

#WebKit/WebKitGTK/WPE is effectively the only other mature/production-ready web engine you can use *today*, not many know that (see also https://github.com/Fyrd/caniuse/issues/6807).

I hedge my bets by simultaneously helping QA Firefox and Epiphany (WebKitGTK) for parity.

Add the "WebKitGTK and WPE WebKit" engine for not-exactly-WebKit browsers like Epiphany (GNOME Web) and embedded devices · Issue #6807 · Fyrd/caniuse

Summary / TLDR In current features matrix tables, CanIUse's browsers include Chrome (Blink), Edge (Blink), Safari, Firefox, Opera (Blink), IE (dead), and a long tail of somewhat niche mobile browse...

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Show threadBardMoss the Bodhi Linux GuyFeb 28, 2025
@nekohayo @WebKitGTK @webkit
I have tried using Gnome Web (Epiphany) on more than a few occasions and I don't find it to be full featured or a suitable replacement for Firefox or Chrome.
Show threadJeff Fortin T. (風の庭園のNekohayo)
@zaivala
I use it mostly for web apps, and testing websites.
v47 is much better.
Hasn't replaced Firefox as my main (I doubt it will, until it can handle _thousands_ of tabs across a hundred tab groups, and "send tab to my other computer"), but I like to put effort into the underdog, as a way for us to have an escape hatch (and for the benefit of others in the general public who may be able to switch more easily than me… I realize that my requirements are not really "normal").
Long-term vision!
Feb 28, 2025 at 6:12amTuba
Show threadozamidasMar 1, 2025

@nekohayo @zaivala I like GNOME web quite a lot but their RAM consumption is brutal, and it's scrolling speed is the lowest compared to chrome and especially Firefox.

If they solve the RAM usage i will make the switch in no time.

Show threadJeff Fortin T. (風の庭園のNekohayo)Mar 1, 2025

@ozamidas @zaivala
Yeah, a big part of why I want the notion of tab workspaces (aka Tab Groups) in https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/epiphany/-/issues/1835 is because I'd also want some sort of automatic tab process suspend feature to save RAM.

Currently Epiphany also can't handle a hundred tabs before it will reach kernel limitations, as it uses too many inotify handles per tab: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/epiphany/-/issues/1454

As for general performance (rendering, scrolling, playback, etc.), I have a meta/tracker bug: https://bugs.webkit.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=245783

Tab workspaces (Simple Tab Groups like Safari/Firefox/Chrome, with idle tabs unloading to save memory) (#1835) · Issues · GNOME / Epiphany · GitLab

The current posterchild of this feature is the "Simple Tab Groups" Firefox extension, the most reliable and well-rounded successor to the defunct...

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