Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮Seeing more and more games on Steam have their AI generation disclosures like “don’t worry it’s just backgrounds, voices…and so on”.
If you can’t be bothered to make it, why should I be bothered to play it? Or write about it?
Frank@gamingonlinux I feel somewhat conflicted about this. At what point is AI not just another tool a developer or creative person can add to their toolbox? Long, long ago I hand coded 8 bit sprite matrixes. Then came tools to draw your sprites which dumped the matrix for you. 3D is just a long road of ever more versatile tools that let you apply templates and logic to create and animate what you need.
Tau 🏳️🌈@fschaap @gamingonlinux I think if a creative person or artist used an AI for this they would disclose it properly and describe (even enthuastically) how the AI improves their work and art
skribe 🇺🇦 
@fschaap @gamingonlinux I think the line can be drawn at where did they get their AI data set from. If they're taking it without payment (or credit) to the original creator, that has got to be a red flag. If they're using their own in-house data (like some stock photo places have) that raises fewer concerns. Of course, that's ignoring the massive energy requirements AI has, but so do a bunch of industries.
Gloopsies 
Ai is not a tool it's an excuse to steal other people's work while wasting insane amounts of resources
@gloopsies @gamingonlinux Sure, the current implementation by robber barons is that too. And 'AI' is a terrible term. But where do you draw the line between a pathfinding algorithm, an asset generation algorithm and a generative conversation model and the other code and algorithms you use?
Does it take other people's work without their consent? That's an easy line to draw
@gloopsies @gamingonlinux Yep, I am all for drawing that line.
Gustavo@fschaap @gamingonlinux One thing would bother me is if the majority of things I see on a game was AI generated. I have saw some games on itch.io where all imagery is AI generated and... its horrible. Sure, there are comments like "don't let the comments complaining about AI get you down", but, come on, it only shows the developer have quite low standards. At least those were free games, probably their first ones too, but, if they are making a free game, couldn't they find someone to team with that knows how to draw something for free? Or just code a text-only game first before adventuring into more complex challenges? I have my share of text-only games I made. Or just do programmer art. The normalization of AI for artwork worries me a lot.
@qgustavor @gamingonlinux Whatever currently passes for 'AI' makes it way easier to make slop. Very annoying, but if enough people simply ignore them and don't reward them with money or attention, it will hopefully slowly descend into a mostly filterable problem like spam.