Brandy Leach
Leia Bryant RedneckFeminist⛤⁷⎇Pornography is the propaganda of rape,violence against women, patriarchy & misogyny. Pornography sexualizes racism & classism. Pornography IS fascism. It is capitalist exploitation of women for the profit of racist sexist men. It thrives on imperialism & colonialism. #radfem #feminism #TIRF #6B4T #6B #4B
Ramin Honary@Leiabryant13 what is the term we should use for films depicting people having sex which are not exploitative, but would like to differentiate it from films which do not depict the actors having sex?
@ramin_hal9001 in order for it not to be exploitative it would have to be either a something that doesn't depict real flesh and blood people which would be a form of animation for example or be it would have to exist outside of capitalism in a post capitalist world everything would be different but we're not in that world so yeah there's no other types there aren't exploitive.
@Leiabryant13 thanks for explaining! This is an interesting point of view I had not considered before.
Is it possible that exhibitionists, as in people who feel pleasure sharing videos of themselves having sex, and who of course all consented to participating, could create an film that was not exploitative? Do you think they are necessarily exploited if there is a profit motive, even if they believe they are selling films of themselves because they want to?
@ramin_hal9001 knowledge that a true exhibitionist would not be under the same exploitation as everyone else in the industry but they're still exploited by capitalism regardless.
but they’re still exploited by capitalism regardless.
@Leiabryant13 that makes sense.
I suppose hentai artists are also exploited, so in that sense hentai isn’t ethical either. But I think we have a moral obligation to minimize exploitation, even if it is not possible to completely avoid while under capitalism.
I guess if there are exhibitionists or hentai artists who are self-employed and sells their films or drawings not as their primary source of income, that would probably be the most ethical form of “erotic art” (not sure what else to call it, if not pornography) one could consume living under an inherently exploitative capitalist state.
Thanks for this discussion!
@ramin_hal9001 yeah it has ethical problems but it's not nearly as bad as porn itself because porn exploits of flesh and blood human being into a sexual object which is why I avoid that entirely but i myself do indulge in erotic artwork and fiction I just avoid porn as it's the biggest offender when it comes to exploitation