Linux Is BestTechnically, as a territory, Gaza's citizens would become Us Citizens.
I guess, welcome, our fellow Palestine Americans is in order.
Colin Cogle 
Unfortunately, true.
Still, while this move is widely surprising and unpopular, I can see this possibly working. -- Lots of pushback, but I can still see this working.
When Gaza's footprint is overlaid onto New York City, it covers an area roughly the size of Manhattan, the Bronx and Hoboken, New Jersey, combined (see photo). The population of Gaza was only 2 million before the war, and imagine it is less now.
Snow
Fishtiks
Marion van Beek@Noctania
Hamas is more Palestinian than the Palestinian Authority, or it wouldn't have been able to take over, and the people would have elected a new leader, making it impossible for them to be abused as martyrs for money. Israel has problems, I admit, but Palestinians need decent leaders, better than the oppressive Palestinian Authority even. They need free press. They need freedom from their own government.
@colin @Linux @snow
Hamas is more Palestinian than the Palestinian Authority, or it wouldn't have been able to take over, and the people would have elected a new leader, making it impossible for them to be abused as martyrs for money. Israel has problems, I admit, but Palestinians need decent leaders, better than the oppressive Palestinian Authority even. They need free press. They need freedom from their own government.
@colin @Linux @snow
@Fishtiks I had Jewish acquaintances in my youth in the Netherlands who were fine here but decided to move to Israel in the 21st century. About 1 million Russian Jews emigrated to Israel after Perestrojka. There is no room for Palestinian refugees to return to Israel. How is that just?
@Noctania
Some of the Russians that moved to Israel were treated badly, and became neo-Nazis. Taxes are high, so it's not as you seem to think in Israel. Settlers are the only ones that avoid taxes much, and the government doesn't protect them while using them. Israel should also take black Jews from Ethiopia, but it has refused.
Some of the Russians that moved to Israel were treated badly, and became neo-Nazis. Taxes are high, so it's not as you seem to think in Israel. Settlers are the only ones that avoid taxes much, and the government doesn't protect them while using them. Israel should also take black Jews from Ethiopia, but it has refused.
@Noctania
Israel would not support Palestinians with electricity or water, because if they did, they were funding terrorism, while they certainly don't expect it to change by cutting those off.
Israel would not support Palestinians with electricity or water, because if they did, they were funding terrorism, while they certainly don't expect it to change by cutting those off.
@Noctania
So, then, what did I do? I had some people there look into some energy research, which would have been clean and put Palestine on the map if it had worked out well. Unfortunately, it didn't, but you try. They could still fund their own electricity and filtration, if martyr funds were spent on those, but they would often lose funding from other nations.
So, then, what did I do? I had some people there look into some energy research, which would have been clean and put Palestine on the map if it had worked out well. Unfortunately, it didn't, but you try. They could still fund their own electricity and filtration, if martyr funds were spent on those, but they would often lose funding from other nations.
@Noctania
It was biofuel research, which has picked up and is becoming quite impressive, but I suppose they didn't have the research team there.
It was biofuel research, which has picked up and is becoming quite impressive, but I suppose they didn't have the research team there.
@Noctania
At this point, it's for US to decide, as in the United States of America foremost, because of crap politics that we won't allow to continue that we're already involved in, and both Palestinians and Israelis will listen about control of a dismantled Gaza, or they're likely to be killed on sight by mere contractors whose rules of engagement we don't know. That's better than what was happening. I didn't do it, but we don't listen to terrorists, and we're involved.
@colin @Linux @snow
At this point, it's for US to decide, as in the United States of America foremost, because of crap politics that we won't allow to continue that we're already involved in, and both Palestinians and Israelis will listen about control of a dismantled Gaza, or they're likely to be killed on sight by mere contractors whose rules of engagement we don't know. That's better than what was happening. I didn't do it, but we don't listen to terrorists, and we're involved.
@colin @Linux @snow
@Fishtiks US meddling in other nations’ autonomy has threatened world peace for decades with millions of lives lost. In South America, in the Middle East (Irak) and far east (Vietnam) and to what avail? Sometimes not interfering is the better option.
@Noctania
Yeah, they should totally get out if nobody appreciates it. We aren't world police, and I get quite tired of it and the expenses to our population.
Yeah, they should totally get out if nobody appreciates it. We aren't world police, and I get quite tired of it and the expenses to our population.
@Noctania
Bless you for even truly considering the people as more than puppets. It gets crazy, with people only supporting political power moves that support their nations' strength over others.
Bless you for even truly considering the people as more than puppets. It gets crazy, with people only supporting political power moves that support their nations' strength over others.
@Fishtiks @colin @Linux @snow such a vague notion: they once got some funding but it didn’t take off so you consider them squanderers. Did you see the devastation of Gaza after Operations Cast Lead (2008), Pillar of Defense (2012) and Protective edge (2014)? You know that Israel cuts off water and electricity at random for Palestinians? Why didn’t that change your perception of IDF interventions or Israeli society?
@Noctania
Whoa, what? I said I hoped to help them, and it would be nice to see a breakthrough, as in I support them more than most people, demanding funding for them. It was research into new forms of energy, so you don't just expect a result. I was hopeful, and it could have changed a lot, but I don't blame them. Try reading what's actually there.
@colin @Linux @snow
Whoa, what? I said I hoped to help them, and it would be nice to see a breakthrough, as in I support them more than most people, demanding funding for them. It was research into new forms of energy, so you don't just expect a result. I was hopeful, and it could have changed a lot, but I don't blame them. Try reading what's actually there.
@colin @Linux @snow
@Noctania
IDF interventions exist because of lack of accountability by Palestinians as well, but I don't support the IDF sitting around on ordinary Palestinians' land without any reason to be there, and have given them cameras to record it, hoping they can get it out. I mean, did you read what I had to delete about crayons for Palestinian children? Who do you think you're talking to?
@colin @Linux @snow
IDF interventions exist because of lack of accountability by Palestinians as well, but I don't support the IDF sitting around on ordinary Palestinians' land without any reason to be there, and have given them cameras to record it, hoping they can get it out. I mean, did you read what I had to delete about crayons for Palestinian children? Who do you think you're talking to?
@colin @Linux @snow
@Noctania
When you realize that the balloon bombs are intended to hit at random, but that they made it easier to make those bombs specifically, it's very confusing, seeming as though perhaps Israel needs these attacks to whatever degree, since they control what goes in, largely. Because I don't then know whether they're intended to be random attacks, or that's just what's settled for, but I know they're easier to make. Israel could not do this without the festival attack.
@colin @Linux @snow
When you realize that the balloon bombs are intended to hit at random, but that they made it easier to make those bombs specifically, it's very confusing, seeming as though perhaps Israel needs these attacks to whatever degree, since they control what goes in, largely. Because I don't then know whether they're intended to be random attacks, or that's just what's settled for, but I know they're easier to make. Israel could not do this without the festival attack.
@colin @Linux @snow