Computers are a trap. You love computers right up to the point that you learn slightly too much about computers, and then you hate computers
@sinbad It's annoying because it's true.

@mahryekuh @sinbad stop reminding me 😭

😉

@sinbad Imo it's a matter of perspective. I still love computers after working with them for...about 17 years probably?

Just accept that "everything is always broken" is how things are meant to be and suddenly it's not that bad

@lisyarus ah so you’re in the Stockholm Syndrome era 😉

(I’ve worked with them for twice that long, call me the ghost of Xmas future)

@sinbad I believe I'm past the Stockholm Syndrome era, and now I'm in the "I want to create stuff, not complain about stuff" era :)
@lisyarus @sinbad you can build better things than big software can! And for that, I thank you. 🖖
@lisyarus long may it continue. I don't even like the code I write anymore 😂😶
@sinbad which is practical since everything is a computer, which allows you to consolidate your hate
@lritter Although being omnidirectional it does diminish fast according to the inverse square law
@sinbad @lritter the monetary worth of computer hype warps spacetime
@sinbad I would like to tell AM that the feeling is mutual.
@sinbad I still love computers after my first contact 35 years ago. The software industry is broken though, and there are reasons to dispair, but computer themselves still hold all of their potential.
@sinbad When I was in grad school - nearly 20 years ago now - I went to a colloquium talk by a theory professor who skipped the usual Powerpoint projection and instead made dry-erase marker notes on transparencies she projected on a screen. I think she sensed our shock because after a few minutes she paused and said, "I don't think you can do really good computer science unless you hate computers."
@sinbad benn through that a few times over the past 45 years. And I still have all of my analog photo kit.
@sinbad please make me forget all about computers I wanna live in the woods and be happy
@sinbad If you keep going, you then discover it doesn't have to be this way, and end up wasting your life on Arch Linux and Libreboot'ed thinkpads or worse yet, ARM stuff.
Also next thing you know, you don't have a single device with google services.
@sinbad when you learn printers have a rendering engine bc that's what drivers send

@sinbad As one of my teachers used to say "computer 'science' is NOT a science. You can do the same thing over and over and get different results"

Then he proceeded to explain why with computers you really never do the exact same thing what with the CPU clock, memory used, etc;
Once he made us create a program to simulate a deadlock xDD

Guy was crazy but we learned a lot

@sinbad the more I learn about computers, the more I love them though 🤔
@sinbad Love computers but hate how people use computers

@sinbad story of my life

And then some new type of computer comes out and it starts all over again

@sinbad I must have always known too much about computers. Learning BASIC at school ruined maths too. I only studied computer science by a series of accidents.
@sinbad 40+ years as software/firmware developer, I think I used almost everything and still love to design SW/HW.
What ruin things is not the technology but everything that is around it especially everything that is done to make "more easy to develop", in order to allow people who doesn't even know WHAT a damn computer is, to create SW easily and fast.
The hundred "new" languages developed to hide and hide everything, to don't scare people and the run to improve "productivity".
These things are what ruined the profession, no more looking for quality, security but productivity.
Bean-counters (managers) counting how many lines one do, how long one stare the monitor, measuring and issuing new rules, etc. ... these things ruined the profession.
But I still love computers and design to solve real problems with them.
@sinbad really it’s not computers, it’s progress bars. Think of all the development time to engineer a machine whose purpose is to convince you to wait and do nothing.
@sinbad 💯 Fact. Especially when your extended family starts treating you like IT support!
@sinbad I don't hate computers, I hate people, markets and industries who made the world compute in deeply disturbing, fatally flawed, fractally wrong ways.
@sinbad How to say you haven't found your operating system, without saying you haven't found your operating system?

@sinbad

Technology is really great—when it works. (As intended.)

@sinbad i know nothing about computers but hate them in solidarity
@sinbad
So they /are/ like people after all then?

@sinbad I could happily learn everything there is to know about computers.

It's how people use them that really horrifies me.

@sinbad @nullagent And after that it’s too damn hard to give up the money.