/G\echlin63🔻🔺☸️🕉️🌿Jan 25, 2025
mhoye
Spending thirty million dollars to somehow force bluesky to interoperate with a copy of itself while people are out here connecting C64s, AA-powered PalmPilots, aquarium pumps and toothbrushes to the Fediverse is definitely an entire idea.
Jan 25, 2025 at 1:40amWeb
Show threadmhoyeJan 25, 2025

"With your support we can increase the number of BlueSky servers from one to two, as long as they stand very still, don't change anything and also let us do it, all of which are reasonable things to believe will definitely happen."

Me, looking over at the tombstones of usenet, xmpp, mono and every twitter client, thirty years of embrace-extend-extinguish, people heroically struggling to resuscitate email and rss, ad-supported operating systems and all the dead-greenhouse walled gardens: No.

Show threadmhoyeJan 25, 2025

Free Our Feeds people: "We want $30,000,000 to someday liberate the people who've chosen BlueSky from their having chosen BlueSky."

The @PixelFed team, blowing past their Kickstarter goal of 1.66% of $30M: "Our entire team is absolutely overwhelmed by your incredible support."

Show thread🌸 lily 🏳️‍⚧️   θΔ ⋐ & ∞Jan 25, 2025
@mhoye eh, pixelfed are also pretty bad
the guy who runs it has a pretty bad ego and also recently made it harder for people new to the fediverse getting started with pixelfed from choosing other servers
Show threadmoin Jan 25, 2025
@tauon @mhoye how did he make it harder to choose your server?
Show thread🌸 lily 🏳️‍⚧️   θΔ ⋐ & ∞Jan 25, 2025
@moin @mhoye he moved it from the sign up screen into settings, iirc
Show threadj-r conlinJan 25, 2025

@mhoye

With your contribution, we hope to hit our $2,000,000 goal and once again welcome the vibrant and wonderful world of finger.

Show threadcharlagJan 25, 2025
@mhoye I agree with your sentiment but using "trail of tears" in this context is disrespectful IMO
Show threadmhoyeJan 25, 2025
@charlag fair, I’ve changed it.
Show threadMichał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦Jan 25, 2025

@mhoye also I believe there are some things BS needs to implement first before this is *actually* possible.

So not just "stand still", but "actively support us". 🙄

Show threadErgonWolfJan 25, 2025
@rysiek @mhoye I do appreciate you abbreviating "bluesky" to "BS".
Show threadMichał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦Jan 26, 2025
@ErgonWolf @mhoye 
Show threadbitwise exclusive andJan 25, 2025

@mhoye There's at least one Fedi platform for the Gemini protocol. There's fedi clients that run in terminals. It's so embarrassing that ATProto thinks it's doing anything new.


#fedi
Show threadWTLJan 25, 2025
@mhoye @gnomon Can you imagine pumping 30 million dollars into Mastodon, Pixelfed, and the others?
Show threadBen ZaninJan 25, 2025
@WTL @mhoye I could see that funding three years of stable administration and moderation for 30 instances serving a few hundred users apiece, which I suspect would do this network a world of good completely apart from improving a single line of code
Show threadmhoyeJan 25, 2025
@gnomon @WTL I could see it building out federated moderation tooling and paying for moderation services instances could subscribe to for a few years, yeah. Not whatever this is.
Show threadDavid Chisnall (*Now with 50% more sarcasm!*)Jan 26, 2025
@gnomon @WTL @mhoye If someone wanted to spend that money, I’d rather spend it teaching government and news media IT departments how to run their own instances.
Show threadWTLJan 26, 2025
@david_chisnall @gnomon @mhoye Outreach would certainly be a good use for some of the money.
Show threadChristiaan MolemanJan 27, 2025
@WTL @mhoye @gnomon Fediverse could get more money if they worked more on UX and general usability for non-tech users. It's not user-friendly enough yet.
Show threadWTLJan 27, 2025
@ninjadodo @mhoye @gnomon UX is an issue, but I think the perception of the complexity of onboarding is something that we collectively can help with.
Show threadChristiaan MolemanJan 27, 2025

@WTL Explanations and communication can be improved, but it's not just a perception that setup and use is difficult, it IS measurably more complicated in several ways than using other social media.

I think the main obstacle is that inter-server interactions need to be made completely seamless for the user (with zero extra hassle) and moving to a different server needs to be improved starting with auto-import of your follows, not just follow-ERS.

Show threadChristiaan MolemanJan 27, 2025

@WTL Oh and posts... it also really needs to be able to transfer all your old posts automatically.

Ideally there should also be some kind of optional mechanism for having a full backup in case a server goes down suddenly, so you can still start over even if it's too late to move the normal way.

Without that there isn't enough stability to feel fully safe building up your social network here, if it can just disappear overnight because your server admin had a bad day, or life happened.

Show threadWTLJan 27, 2025
@ninjadodo Agreed. I think the hardest thing is that the todo list is massive and the team working on it is very small. I imagine that the process of prioritizing what to focus on is a huge challenge.
Show threadStacey CampbellJan 25, 2025

@mhoye Peanuts! VW dropped $5B for some EV software.

I would have given up retirement and banged out some code for them for half that.

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/whats-behind-volkswagens-5-bln-ev-software-bet-rivian-2024-06-26/

Show threadGregJan 28, 2025
@stacey_campbell @mhoye and I'd drop everything and come and make you the food and drink of your choice every day for 1 year for 1/10th of that!
Show threadNeal Wilson ✅Jan 25, 2025
@mhoye I should connect my coffee roasters to the fediverse some time.
Show threadmhoyeJan 25, 2025
@neal No joke, I would absolutely follow accounts that are just a local roasting machine with a camera that said, we roasted these beans for this long and it looked like this. I'd watch a twitch stream of coffee being roasted.
Show threadNeal Wilson ✅Jan 25, 2025
@mhoye My production machine does have a camera mounted over the sight glass used for live roast level estimation.
Show threadmhoyeJan 25, 2025
@neal doooo eeeet.
Show threadHans Vink 🐦Jan 25, 2025
@mhoye @neal may I suggest mastodon.coffee? https://mastodon.coffee/about
Mastodon ☕

A coffee-purpose, English speaking Mastodon server that runs on coffee.

Mastodon hosted on mastodon.coffee
Show threadGregJan 28, 2025
@mhoye @neal Do you like watching paint dry too? 😇
Show threadWattana's Place of BrainrotJan 25, 2025
@mhoye they got a C64 on the Fediverse????
Show threadmhoyeJan 25, 2025

@Atirut

C64, PalmPilots, Apple ][, Amiga, old MS-DOS machines, pre-OSX Macs, the retrocomputing crowd gets it done.

https://fedi.tips/using-mastodon-on-retro-computers/

Using Mastodon on retro computers | Fedi.Tips – An Unofficial Guide to Mastodon and the Fediverse

An unofficial guide to using Mastodon and the Fediverse

Show threadThe DoctorJan 25, 2025
@Atirut @mhoye A couple of 'em.
Show threadKit Rhett AultmanJan 25, 2025
@Atirut @mhoye I've used the Fediverse on an Apple iie.
Show threadThe DoctorJan 25, 2025
@mhoye Can I quote you on that?
Show threadThiago Ferrer MoriniJan 25, 2025
@mhoye But ENTREPRENEURSHIP
Show threadCardboard!Jan 25, 2025
@mhoye i want to try connecting a C64 to Mastodon lol. wonder if it'll work with the various wifi modems for the Commodore...
Show threadmhoyeJan 25, 2025
@cardboard https://fedi.tips/using-mastodon-on-retro-computers/
Using Mastodon on retro computers | Fedi.Tips – An Unofficial Guide to Mastodon and the Fediverse

An unofficial guide to using Mastodon and the Fediverse

Show threadCardboard!Jan 25, 2025
@mhoye neat!
Show threadSascha Foerster Jan 25, 2025
@mhoye @wicki 🤭🥳
Show threadpubliusJan 26, 2025

@mhoye

I'm thinking about using a Watchman as a C64 monitor. If I get on-line with that, I'll definitely post a photo. And I'll happily accept $30M from anybody who's impressed by that feat.

Show threadoptimista 🏴‍☠️🏳️‍🌈Jan 26, 2025
@mhoye I am sorry but now I need to follow the toothbrushes. I am serious 🤣
Show threadCyberFrogJan 26, 2025
@mhoye I'm still convinced Bluesky will never federate or interoperate with anything not controlled by themselves or another massive corporate entity

Twitter is dead, long live twitter!!!

meanwhile I'll enjoy my automated toothbrush updates here on fedi, where real people who care about the world communicate lol
Show threadLes OrchardJan 26, 2025

@mhoye This hacker federated a car

https://masto.doskel.net/@doskel/113884312225881269

jollyskel (@[email protected])

today is the day i will run gotosocial on my car and make it federate

doskel's corner
Show threadghostcatteJan 27, 2025

@mhoye "unfortunately, the fediverse isn't popular"

okay so spend $30m on improving it. Or advertising it. Or whatever

Show threadYer FeffJan 27, 2025
@ghostcatte @mhoye imagine the educational resources $30m could get
Show threadRobots can be gay deal with itJan 29, 2025
@mhoye it's 2034, and the Internet has been taken offline by a fascist regime. Fedi has moved entirely to LoRa and bouncing signals off the ISS. You can tell a Fedi user by the Cybikos they carry in their holsters, which run Arch.