btw if you're planning on protesting a talk, the easiest way is to pull the fire alarm

and if you're at fosdem, you can say "i just saw a vape cloud i guess" if anyone asks why

the thing about pulling the fire alarm to stop a talk, you don't even have to be in the same room, just in the same building, or somewhere on the same fire circuits, it's pretty impossible to stop

that, and with large enough buildings, they can't turn the alarms off without having someone from the fire service check

the more you know huh

it's funny to note that the systemd guy doesn't protested at fosdem because despite the invective, he isn't as despised as jack dorsey
someone has explained "pulling the fire alarm causes problems" and "the event organizers can suffer consequence for it" in what i can only describe as an incredible achievement in understanding a post

the thing about nerds at fosdem,

socioeconomically speaking, it's full of people who had access to computers at an early age, and people who earn well over the median

so, well, there aren't many people who've ever had to fight or protest, which is why you'll always hear "have we tried not causing problems" as a preferred option

it's the same sort of brainrot logic of "blocking a road could block an ambulance" where a theoretical consequence blocks any action with a result

"what do we want" meaningful political change

"how do we want it" without any inconvenience to those in power, or any interruption to the status-quo

same as it ever was

it's pretty funny to see infosec people telling me this is a bad idea

when all i am doing is disclosing a vulnerability and noting that it requires very little technical skill

*casually walking up to a monk on fire* you know that's carcenogenic right
to be clear i'm not going to fosdem, i don't work in open source, i'm only a hobbyist
anyway yes to be clear: protest always causes problems, pulling the fire alarm can have negative consequences, much like blocking a door, a road, and you might not like it, but that's a conversation you can have elsewhere
@tef Blocking a road doesn't reduce the credibility of all future roads.
@tef "Have you tried not causing any problems?"
"They never did..."

@tef I think that is a non-DEI opinion.

There are plenty of nerds who are not white-males and still had to fight their way in when it comes to actual nerd jobs.

Maybe the early ones got in because of early recognition, but the rest of us still have to earn it the old-fashioned way.

Vs a lot of discrimination/bias for not being ivy league, not being one of the "boys", not being a typical looking "nerd", not being able to process questions in 10 seconds, etc.

@tef not misusing emergency equipment (yes fire alarms are such) is about fucking safety. Do whatever protest you like, but misusing the fire alarm makes the alarm less effective (and hopefully lands you in jail).
Frightened crowds are no joke and can maim and kill people (for which you could be held criminally liable).
@davidgerard I thought you were better than offering your platform for such dangerous idiocy.
If you doubt me: any firefighter/responsible adult will do a #ELI5 for you.
@tef honestly kinda reassuring to me that people can separate “this person makes technical choices that annoy and inconvenience me” from “this person is a threat”
@tef what did I miss about Poettering?
@tef i mean, he pisses people off, but he's _one of us_ in a way jack isn't