KaleidotropeI continue to be shocked by magazines and writers that continue to use generative AI. Even if you think it looks good (it doesn’t), or you’ve convinced yourself it’s ethical and non-exploitative (it isn’t), the environmental cost is so ridiculously high it should be a non-starter.
Shantell Powell@kaleidotrope I've had a couple of pieces published with a magazine. For my first story, there was an attributed illustrator. The second time, they used AI. I no longer want to send stories to that magazine.
Me@Shanmonster @kaleidotrope interesting. I often skip past articles that have an ai header image (on the assumption that if they're lying in the image, then I don't trust the text either) But I had not realised the image isn't always the author's choice
@carlog @kaleidotrope authors rarely choose the images.
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I got a new tablet for my dad and was researching news RSS feeds for him. Came across a local news site I'd never heard of before. While trying to assess who they were, a sports story caught my eye. It was on the local team and had an image of the stadium. Except it wasn't the stadium. I think everyone in the area who doesn't actively look away from sports news knows intimately what the stadium looks like. It was some derivative AI slop.
Which immediately made me question if it's writers depicted were real.
It did not get added to my dad's feed.
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Whiskers The Great and Terrible@kaleidotrope the genie is well and truly out of the bottle with AI. You will lose your job to someone who is willing and able to use AI long before you lose your job to AI itself (for most people).
Darrin West@kaleidotrope @phil This view is short sighted. The causal use of this technology is not sustainable and doesn’t appear to be in the future (without a radical change in the way the matrices are computed). Its widespread use is subsidized by venture capital. When their patience runs out and users are expected to cover the power bill and a profit, its use will plummet. Then what? It will retain only a small fraction of its current market, or might even die.
@obviousdwest @kaleidotrope I’m struggling to think of another example where this has happened?
@kaleidotrope @phil Ad driven news media. Crypto (especially NFTs). Internal combustion engines (heh). Sub prime mortgages. Cold fusion. AR/VR headsets. (I don’t have a prepared, irrefutable list; this was from 5 minutes of brainstorming) Tamagotchis, Teslas, Beanie Babies. Your struggle comes because we forget the level of hype we experienced from the losers.
@kaleidotrope @obviousdwest crypto is still alive and well (except for NFTs which had no business value). Cold fusion never hit mainstream adoption (unlike GenAI), same with AR/VR. Tamagotchis, Teslas, and Beanie Babies are just irrelevant comparisons.
Sub prime mortgages are a good call out, but I’m not sure that AI carries that level of risk for businesses though?
Sub prime mortgages are a good call out, but I’m not sure that AI carries that level of risk for businesses though?
TamaraPNW@kaleidotrope I don’t get it either. My co-writer and I made a deal with a human artist to design our book cover because we are so painfully aware of the cost of AI to all creatives. It’s absolutely indefensible to use generative AI.
Tor Iver Wilhelmsen@kaleidotrope If they make no effort in its creation I shall expend no effort in its consumption. «But, but, prompt engineering…» (door slams)
Paul Klos@kaleidotrope I guess when it comes to AI the selfish approach wins: it's easy and cheap for me right now, so to hell with the consequences. Or what's going on in people's minds here?
Eric LawtonJudging from the number of monster pickups and SUVs on the road, we have an uphill battle on these arguments.
Oggie@kaleidotrope
Honest to god it's like those anti-balding spray on hair things that were a craze for a while.
'Nobody can tell!' was literally one of the tag lines of the commercials. Yes, this was a real product, and it was just a weird as hell spraypaint to allow people to cling to a strange delusion.
Sometimes you're not feeling creative or pithy. But this sure doesn't seem like the solution.
Maxilo OveritDoes AI come in a spray? If you spray it on your scalp does it make you look smart?
miki@kaleidotrope The environmental impact is smaller than we think.
As a point of comparison, organizing a conference for more than 1k people, where many of them live on other continents and hence have no other option but to travel by commercial airliner, is far, far worse than any AI.
Sally Strange@miki "Libertarian leaning"
You should specify that it's right libertarian
Kristoffer 🍄@miki @kaleidotrope what a bizarre and irrelevant comparison
georgebmillion.com
Wulfy—Speaker to the machinesAnd now you know exactly how the folks in the 1990s felt about all that computer stuff...
They too made angry noises...
And now, those still alive, drool into their prayer tablets and mash "like"
You may hate it, but you can't stop it anymore.