Ethan J. A. SchoonoverI say this as someone running a sizable Discord: We have to move past Discord for community.
2025 let's bring back BLOGS, RSS, and FORUMS
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Andrew Woods@ssfckdt @ethanschoonover The death of Google Reader was only part of it, and probably the initial domino. Browsers also removed the RSS indicator from the address bar (as part of diminishing the visibility of URLs - to prioritize search). Also, as sites added paywalls and ads, sites minimized RSS content - by typically showing just the opening paragraph; Sometimes only a sentence.
aswack@ssfckdt @ethanschoonover I feel like it’s still been limping along for years? It’s not well known but I’ve been using NewsBlur for a long, long time. Like so many other nearly dead things on the web, it persists in the lore of nerds
@swacknificent @ssfckdt I also still use RSS extensively via both Reeder and DEVONthink primarily. Just want to really continue to promote its resurgence.
@ethanschoonover @ssfckdt yeah, it should be prostheletized! I have vague plans to see if I can put together a session to talk to my coworkers about how they might use RSS to follow professional topics.
Eider@swacknificent @ethanschoonover @ssfckdt
As @awoodsnet wrote earlier, the websites' lack of full support or no support at all is the biggest problem.
Is it an Ad revenue problem? Do articles full downloads do not count towards their analytics?
I use Feeder in android
@aguamielerogpz @swacknificent @ethanschoonover @ssfckdt The problem with RSS from a business aspect is that the RSS feed is outside the browser experience where the ads are. So when people read the article from the feed, their analytics are not being collected. A biz wants the RSS feed to drive users to the site. So the full article gets reduced to an excerpt , in order to incentivize the customer to finish the article on the website. I don’t know how effective that tactic is, though.
@awoodsnet @aguamielerogpz @ethanschoonover @ssfckdt ultimately, the problem with all of this is that the way businesses make $ with web content is kind of toxic and often leaves everyone unhappy.
I was interested to see that 404 Media offers a full text RSS feed for subscribers, which is the sorta thing that might help motivate me to subscribe to something, but I might be a very tiny minority.
I was interested to see that 404 Media offers a full text RSS feed for subscribers, which is the sorta thing that might help motivate me to subscribe to something, but I might be a very tiny minority.
@aguamielerogpz @swacknificent @ethanschoonover @awoodsnet
Well yea, but it seems like sites were more supportive of RSS while Google Reader was around, because so many people used it and it helped them shuttle their content. When Reader went away, sites had less incentive to keep supporting it.
I guess too blogs in general have faded quite a bit in favor of insta and what not.
JWSGeek@ethanschoonover @swacknificent @ssfckdt I went to Feedly when Google Reader died and never regretted it. Still the #1 way I get notified of blog posts as either 'the algorithm' or 'the dumb luck of not being online at the right time' would otherwise have me missing blog entries i follow *constantly.*
Granted, the sites that post like 20 things a day (a certain Disney Parks one in particular) get a little annoying this way, but hey.
@jwsgeek @ethanschoonover @swacknificent
Well, GR provided you a nice running feed of all the posts of your followed sites, which you could read at once, kind of like sifting email, but seperate from it. Most sitenotifications in my opinion are invasive.