DieuDec 14, 2024
@nazokiyoubinbou @nixCraft you'd certainly need a lot of resources to kill someone and make it look like a suicide. And there would have to be a lot at stake for you.
Show threadjonathankoren™

@hllizi @nazokiyoubinbou @nixCraft Over… copyright?

Please. That’s like the dumbest thing for the company to worry about. Not only is there a very very solid case for fair use, but every single large player came for a shakedown rent payment got paid off easily.

Copyright is literally a problem that goes away if you throw money at it, and OpenAI and Microsoft have metric tons of money. More money than even the largest rent seekers could possibly gather.

Dec 14, 2024 at 4:27amWeb
Show threadtessaraktDec 14, 2024
@jonathankoren @hllizi @nazokiyoubinbou @nixCraft fair use, like all copyright exceptions, is limited by the https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berne_three-step_test . IMO that's not very solid.
Berne three-step test - Wikipedia

Show threadjonathankoren™Dec 14, 2024

@tessarakt @hllizi @nazokiyoubinbou @nixCraft Not only is that test very vague, it's full of explicit holes. This isn't even my opinion. It's the what the article says. Claiming a fair use case is "not very solid", and using a test that is literally described as "vague" ("The test is vague;") it has only *one* legal case to its name is pretty shaky. If this is the magic bullet, I've seen deadlier nerf darts.

And now we're not even talking about how these cases mostly hinge on someone they don't like reading, not even copying, but *reading* works, and then are transformed into new and novel works that while informed, do not explicitly copy anything. It's transparently fair use. There's even a word for cases that are closer to straight copying in copyright law specifically with respect to music. "Interpolation" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpolation_(popular_music)

The only confusion about this is because by spreading misinformation, rent seekers think they can get an easy payday from unread archives they made publicly available for free

Interpolation (popular music) - Wikipedia

Show threadDavid FetterDec 20, 2024
@tessarakt @jonathankoren @hllizi @nazokiyoubinbou @nixCraft say, before you treat this as a coding problem or something of that nature, could you perhaps step back and notice that the idea of a "rule of law" that's neutral with respect to the power of those affected is ahistoric? You can start that process wherever you want, but here's not a bad place for that sort of inquiry. https://lpeproject.org/primers/legal-realism-an-lpe-reading-list-and-introduction/
Legal Realism Primer

An LPE Reading List & Introduction to Legal Realism. Legal realism was a movement in legal thought that began, roughly, in the late 19th century and flourished alongside Progressivism in the first…

LPE Project
Show threadDieuDec 14, 2024
@jonathankoren @nazokiyoubinbou @nixCraft That may be so. Then there wasn't a lot at stake. No contradiction.
Show threadcultdevDec 14, 2024
@jonathankoren @hllizi @nazokiyoubinbou @nixCraft lol. zero fair use case here