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Janet Logan (she/her) 🏳️⚧️For all you cis folks. Feel free to boost.
'i am no man' Charlotte Eowyn!@janetlogan the hilarious part is the original poem leaves us out even though we were the first fucking ones to go.
Yeah. Niemoller was a Luthern pastor. I have to wonder about his personal opinions of the LGBT community.
a fish named dog ✡️♾️@janetlogan @CharlotteEowyn dunno but I've heard he was an antisemitic asshole who only changed when they started going after HIM so there's that
Passenger@janetlogan @FishNamedDog @CharlotteEowyn
It's worse than you think I'm afraid.
Niemöller actively campaigned on behalf of the NSDAP during the election in which the Nazis took power. He described Hitler as "the man of providence" and claimed that voting for him was the only way to keep Germany christian and non-communist. Later, when Hitler was in power and it was too late, he turned against the Nazis.
After the war Niemöller claimed remorse and tried to rewrite history to make it seem as if he had always been antifascist. This largely worked: most people only know him as the man who did not speak out against Hitler, rather than the man who spoke out loudly and repeatedly in favour of Hitler.
Yep.
I personally feel that if Niemöller had actually been remorseful, it would have motivated him to be honest about what he did. But maybe that's just me.
It seems that you are correct about Neimoller.
https://www.hmd.org.uk/resource/pastor-martin-niemoller-hmd-2021/
Holocaust Memorial Day Trust | Pastor Martin Niemöller
Pastor Martin Niemöller is best known for writing First They Came - one of the most famous poems about the Holocaust - but he is a complicated figure. Initially an antisemitic Nazi supporter, his views changed when he was imprisoned in a concentration camp for speaking out against Nazi control of churches. He later encouraged Germans to take responsibility for Nazi atrocities.
refraction 
@CharlotteEowyn @janetlogan disabled people were arguably targeted first. also left out. Romani people lost probably more as a share of their total population than any other group and they are left out. not a coincidence imo.
ℒӱḏɩę 💾☮∞🎶♲☀🔋@janetlogan The failed public school system is not teaching WWII history much. It's for compliance, not critical thinking.
Juho MäntysaloYou mean that the public school system succeeds in what it strives to be, which is not teaching the history of minorities?
Amoshias@janetlogan I spoke out because I'm a decent human being.
@Amoshias @janetlogan I spoke out because I'm Jewish and it may start with trans people but it'll always end with Jews.
derptron@crazyeddie @Amoshias @janetlogan or queer people or romani or irish or native americans or..., but Jews are dying at some step of the process, assuming there are reasonable numbers of Jews there.
Those who use genocide to advance political ends will always be able to find another target when they run out of the first one. That's really the point of the original poem in my mind.
It never stops once it is allowed to start. And make no mistake, the intent of the attacks on #trans people is our genocide.
@janetlogan @crazyeddie @Amoshias pretty much. I think it's true of any state with a large apparatus that has been trained to view killing people as normal and good; you don't want to be next, so you redirect their anger, always redirect it. But eventually all the people you're directing your anger at flee or die, so you turn your anger to another group.
Laz@janetlogan Thank you for posting!!!
fuzzface@janetlogan @Elleaster This is excellent! Retooted by a cis bi guy.
Keith@janetlogan 100% I’ll stand up for my LGBTQ+ family and friends every day 🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️
Rando@janetlogan And then they came for me anyway
Jakob Krakel First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me
-- Martin Niemöller
Winter TrabexTrumpism is Sado-Populism. The cruelty is the point. The purpose the cruelty serves is to satiate oneself into feeling good about punishing others. The punishment, once begun, cannot end- especially when an entire political party has made punishment their identity.
For this reason, concentration camps are not only possible, but likely.
pockets@trabex @janetlogan
"Fun" fact:
There are a few companies that build, run, and maintain detention centres in the US that can be found openly trading on the stock market.
GEO and CXW are the two I know about.
Not that I'm endorsing buying in, but keeping an eye on their trends might provide some advance warning for at-risk groups.
Wouldn't those just be run by private prison companies? I doubt many of them have moral qualms about anything.
@trabex
It sounds like you're asking me for details about something I have only surface information about.
Let's start with the "easy" part of your comment, morality.
What's the quote about nobody thinks they're evil? In searching the web, I found a few variations, but not the exact one I wanted. Andrew McCarthy's is pretty close ("Nobody thinks they're evil or bad, they think that they're doing the right thing.")
I have enough trouble discerning the morality and motivations of neurotypical people who seem to have context-based fluctuations largely centered around "what they can get away with". If I tried to figure out the motivations of people working in an industry that I find deplorable, I worry I might drown.
Now to the more difficult part, because it's less subjective.
When I do a websearch for "private prison companies", I get:
- an article from Muckrock dated 2015 for top three corporations in the industry, two of them are the ones I mentioned above.
- a document from Prison Legal News dated 2017 for a partial listing of privatized correctional services companies. The two top names under Facility Operations are "GEO Group" and "CoreCivic", which are the two I highlighted above. Also, several of the other names on the list are denoted on the list of being subsidiaries of those two companies.
- an article from sentencingproject.org dated from 2024, which specifically highlights four companies, two of which are the ones I listed above.
- a direct link to the CoreCivic wikipedia page.
- a second article from sentencingproject.org dated from 2018 that describes CXW and GEO as the two largest private prison corps, "collectively manage over half of the private prison contracts in the [US]".
Furthermore, I have seen stock investment advice for Trump's second term that specifically mentions prison stocks of GEO, CXW, and AXON (hey, there's a third one!).
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Edited for a typo in the second mention of "sentencingrpoject.org"
For non-rich people, subsumation of the ego / self is a common practice in public life. ie, "no shirt, no shoes, no service."
For rich people, the ego / self need not be subsumed because one can simply create circumstances in which one's desires can be met, regardless of how objectionable or illegal they might be.
Western society uses punishment as a means of social correction not because it works (it doesn't) but because it feels good to those who aren't victims.
@trabex
Sorry, I ain't got no idea of what you just said or what it has to do with anything I just said. Be a dear and dumb it down for me?
Sorry, I ain't got no idea of what you just said or what it has to do with anything I just said. Be a dear and dumb it down for me?
You mentioned how you had difficulty understanding the motivations of neurotypical people.
My claim is that people who are able to ignore societal norms do so, making them seem like the rules don't apply to them.
ie, this is why private prison companies don't follow traditional moral standards.
lonely extrovert@trabex @janetlogan i am trying to fight the urge to sign every email with "see you at camp!"
BakersRelay@janetlogan I stand for all that kneel.
baconandcoconut@janetlogan You can also speak up immediately because there's no group of people just existing that the government should be "coming for." Whether you think the rest of the poem includes you or not.
LukefromDC@janetlogan And because as a Queer culture, non-monagamous Bi man I am certain I am next in line.
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Martin@janetlogan Nope. First Herbicide Firm Syngenta came for the frogs:
https://www.democracynow.org/2014/2/21/silencing_the_scientist_tyrone_hayes_on
... and tuned the freaking frogs gay with atrazine. https://rumble.com/v33kdfz-gay-frogs-alex-jones-remix.html
https://www.democracynow.org/2014/2/21/silencing_the_scientist_tyrone_hayes_on
... and tuned the freaking frogs gay with atrazine. https://rumble.com/v33kdfz-gay-frogs-alex-jones-remix.html
Silencing the Scientist: Tyrone Hayes on Being Targeted by Herbicide Firm Syngenta
We speak with scientist Tyrone Hayes of the University of California, Berkeley, who discovered a widely used herbicide may have harmful effects on the endocrine system. But when he tried to publish the results, the chemical’s manufacturer launched a campaign to discredit his work. Hayes was first hired in 1997 by a company, which later became agribusiness giant Syngenta, to study their product, atrazine, a pesticide that is applied to more than half the corn crops in the United States, and widely used on golf courses and Christmas tree farms. When Hayes found results Syngenta did not expect — that atrazine causes sexual abnormalities in frogs, and could cause the same problems for humans — it refused to allow him to publish his findings. A new article in The New Yorker magazine uses court documents from a class action lawsuit against Syngenta to show how it sought to smear Hayes’ reputation and prevent the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency from banning the profitable chemical, which is already banned by the European Union.
@MrPerfect72 @janetlogan Actually, since that was not consensual for the frogs, this is a forced transition imposed on frogs, essentially equivalent to the forced detransition Trump, Vance, DeSantis, Abbot, Paxton and the rest of the "Christian State" pack are trying to impose on the entire US trans population
@LukefromDC @janetlogan Do you suspect "a forced transition imposed on" "the entire US trans population" for a purpose? If you do, I would love to listen.
@MrPerfect72 @janetlogan Purpose is same as the targetting of Jews by the Nazis: give the public someone to hate other than the ruling class.
The rich would far prefer to see 100 more trans women murdered than one more CEO executed, you can bet on that one.
@LukefromDC @janetlogan Interesting theory. Could definitely be. How about depopulation?
@MrPerfect72 @janetlogan Unlikely, as banning non-cishet sex increases the reproduction rate. This in fact is the suspected origin of religious sexual taboos
@LukefromDC @janetlogan Do you mean religious sexual taboos are bad because they create overpopulation?
@MrPerfect72 @janetlogan That and they ruin lives
@LukefromDC @janetlogan Well, many want to create the WW3, it seems. Then there might be too few of us? Many of us ruin lives. Many vote for genocide and democide, again and again. When one finger is pointing, then usually three points right back at ourselves.
What is God? Thich Nhat Hanh answers questions" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeL3YBUNaD4
What is God? | Thich Nhat Hanh answers questions
@janetlogan To give another idea about how bad things are getting in US culture, some pro-Trump asshole who no doubt worships Pinochet posted
"first they came for the communists and I did not speak out-because I was refueling the helicopters."
We had problems with Pinochet lovers last time around but I fear this time will be worse
Dean F.@janetlogan As one who has been friendly with the trans community for 41 of my 58 years, I've boosted your fine post.
JWcph, Radicalized By Decency@janetlogan I also spoke out because it's the right thing to do, even if They™️ wouldn't come for me later - which they will, but we don't have to find a reason why it affects us personally to seek justice for other people. Empathy will do just fine.
ShadowZone@janetlogan two classmates of my son are trans. Both great kids, they visited a couple of times.
We're not in the US, but we're still vigilant and we will not tolerate abuse towards them.
We're not in the US, but we're still vigilant and we will not tolerate abuse towards them.
Grant Gould@janetlogan SPOILERS!
Badger AF (he/him) DEMOCRACY@janetlogan Thank you for posting this!
You're welcome! I wish I was creative enough to have come up with it.
raymoo the HomoGaymoo@janetlogan i'm gay but i boosted anyway ;D
Frank Heijkamp@janetlogan Amen to that. This cis hetty stands with #lgbtqia