Your annual reminder...

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They also make a lot of money oppressing disabled and unemployed people in Australia through the jobseeker scheme (scam).

Fuck the salvos.

The Salvation Army says it doesn’t discriminate against LGBTQ people. Critics say that’s not true.

The organization does a lot to help underserved people, including members of the LGBTQ community. Still, it has a long history of alleged discrimination.

Vox
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Thus, the Industrial Workers of the World (IWW) have for more than a century referred to them as "The Starvation Army"

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They sound awful. Now, because there are no citations in that picture, I have to duplicate the research to verify it.

@jo_the_hat So it's morally and ethically correct to shoplift from a Salvation Army store.
@jo_the_hat This is new information for me, but it's sadly not surprising. I will not be putting spare change in their buckets or shopping at their thrift stores (not that I've done either in years)!

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Don’t buy into what was said in the toot. Research for yourself. The allegation is 10 years old and is not supported by the evidence.

@DziadekMick @KnittingMittens @jo_the_hat The Vox story in this thread makes a pretty compelling case that they're not allies of the LGBTQ+ community, that they do discriminate. The Salvation Army's rebuttal of these accusations was notably weak, convoluted and somewhat contradictory.
https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2019/12/16/21003560/salvation-army-anti-lgbtq-controversies-donations
The Salvation Army says it doesn’t discriminate against LGBTQ people. Critics say that’s not true.

The organization does a lot to help underserved people, including members of the LGBTQ community. Still, it has a long history of alleged discrimination.

Vox

@MaierAmsden @KnittingMittens @jo_the_hat

I wouldn’t consider Salvationists to be allies of the LGBTQ+ community. Their bible -based opposition to same-sex relations and relationships would make this impossible. But that doesn’t mean they discriminate in their services. I don’t accept that 10 year old evidence means they don’t care for the trans community, especially when there are examples of how they do. I believe from what I’ve seen that their charity is all-embracing.

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"I wouldn’t consider Salvationists to be allies of the LGBTQ+ community. Their bible -based opposition to same-sex relations and relationships would make this impossible."

Nope. It's totally possible. They're just bigots. They like the bigoted parts of the Bible and reject the parts that teach humility, empathy and equality. It's a choice.

@Alexandre B A Villares 🐍 Não tenho nenhuma razão para defender, mas me preocupam acusações sem fontes. Uma pesquisa de 5s me mostrou informações contraditórias ao post.

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Not too sure where you got your toot from.

'the Salvation Army supports LGBTQ+ people:
Welcomes and serves
The Salvation Army says it welcomes and serves people regardless of sexual orientation, gender identity, race, religion, or ethnicity.'

And no I am not Salvation Army, in fact I follow no religion or religious group

@jo_the_hat dear jo, did you find this or did anyone tell you?.
@jo_the_hat You should really stop spreading this unsubstantiated lie. It’s been on the internet for 10 years, and there is nothing to back up the accusation. And, no, I am not a Salvation Army supporter but I am a supporter of trans rights.
@jo_the_hat ummm....recent references, please.....claims without supporting facts are not helpful
@jo_the_hat Is this the same in the UK? Same organisation?

@jo_the_hat but what about all the gay employees, I personally know many LGBTQ individuals who work for this.

Such a blanket statement is a bit absurd, isn’t it?

They are helping communities and people.

@jo_the_hat they are also known for using aid to force conversions of people of other faiths.

@mauvedeity @jo_the_hat do you have proof of this? In Australia they go out of their way to be inclusive I’m not a member and not religious but they fill in the gaps in govt services

https://www.salvationarmy.org.au/about-us/inclusion/

https://my.salvos.org.au/our-commitment-to-inclusion/

Inclusion | The Salvation Army Australia

We value and include people of all cultures, languages, abilities, sexual orientations, gender identities, gender expressions and intersex status.

@bgrinter @jo_the_hat i don’t have documentation but I have spoken to people who did.
@jo_the_hat I have a Facebook friend who swears they are not. I haven't had time to find her links. Do you have anything handy that backs up this meme?
@jo_the_hat People are never just one thing. When people with views I find repugnant run a charity, they're still running a charity. When people run a charity for reasons I disagree with, they're still running a charity. SA deserves credit for running a charity *and* blame for their views on LGBT+ people. It doesn't cancel out. Both aspects are there.
@jo_the_hat believe that this is also true of the U.K. branch.
International Headquarters

The Salvation Army's International Headquarters is based in London, UK

@jo_the_hat I remember with joy, when out shaking a plastic RNLI boat collecting donations for the Lifeboats, I spotted a Sally Army guy, so rushed over to ask for a donation. He did drop a good coin into my box.
@jo_the_hat just a huge #hate group avoid this scamming charity. #hategroups
@jo_the_hat The latest information about the Salvation Army I can find is from a 2020 Forbes article that rehashes everything from the 2019 Vox article. No changes it makes or good it does will change the fact that the Salvation Army is the charitable arm of an evangelical church that is actively homophobic. There’s queer centered organizations in my area I can and do donate to instead.

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This is the problem with modern day charities. They always exist with an agenda. Then suddenly YOU'RE the asshole for saying you don't support a charity, because OTHERS don't research the issue.

@jo_the_hat I'm so glad all the malls in the SF/Bay area have banned bell ringers from their premises. I've had this for years and never had a chance to stuff one into a bell ringer's pot.

For those who have such things around them, please print and stuff away. Or better yet, complain to the location and get these people tresspassed. I'd love a video of the cops taking a Bellringing Karen in handcuffs.

@jo_the_hat yes Salvation Army sucks and hates gays, but ‘tens of thousands of soup kitchens in new York’?  let’s avoid reposting stuff with very obvious lies in it, we don’t really need to, especially when you can just pull up Wikipedia for a list of more accurate anti gay stuff they’ve done

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And let's not forget their involvement in covering up paedophile members as discovered during the Australian Royal Commission into Child Abuse.

A typical religion based organisation... all love and charity on the outside, morally and ethically bankrupt on the inside.

@jo_the_hat a huge #hate group avoid this delusional sect.
@jo_the_hat I won't even shop in their stores anymore. We wore a mask there and their employees were rude to us. They're pigs.