Henrik SchönemannDec 2, 2024
Do you know of great resources (books, papers, etc.) about 'policing before police'?
I'm mainly thinking of stuff like "Hue and Cry" and community-/civic-policing...
Everything but state-police
I started to collect resources in a #Zotero group-library: https://www.zotero.org/groups/5784081/policing_before_police
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Show threadLucas RappoDec 2, 2024
@lavaeolus @histodons
Hi! What do you mean by policing before police? In a lot of European cities there were forms of citizen police. For example neighborhood institutions. For France you can read the book by Catherine Denys about the police in the north of France cities.
Show threadHenrik SchönemannDec 2, 2024
@lucasrappo Hi back! :)
Yes, I know. I phrased the question deliberately vague and open to collect as many responses as possible.
I really mean 'police' before etatism, so before/in 17th century (when talking about Europe) - you could also say: Before 'states' with 'police' as their tool existed.
Show threadHenrik SchönemannDec 2, 2024
@lucasrappo You're talking about this? https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0096144209359144
Show threadLucas RappoDec 2, 2024
@lavaeolus
For instance yes. Also her book. https://www.editions-harmattan.fr/catalogue/livre/police-et-securite-au-xviiie-siecle/60916
I'm mostly familiar with works on France.
POLICE ET SÉCURITÉ AU XVIIIe SIÈCLE - Catherine Denys

Fondée sur une recherche comparative concernant les villes situées de part et d'autre des frontières du nord de la France, cette étude analyse comment se sont organisées dans ces villes au XVIIIe la police urbaine et la protection de la sécurité publique. D'une grande richesse documentaire sur les cas étudiés, tout en ne négligeant pas les rapprochements avec les autres villes françaises, cet ouvrage constitue une importante contribution à une histoire de la police en France qui reste encore largement à écrire.

Show threadHenrik Schönemann
@lucasrappo But the citations in the above paper are already a great resource:
"Peter Blickle, Peter Kissling, and Heinrich R. Schmidt, Gute Policey als Politik im 16. Jahrhundert. Die Entstehung des öffentlichen Raumes in Oberdeutschland ( Frankfurt-am-Main: Vittorio Klostermann, 2003); Andrea Iseli, "Bonne Police," Frühneuzeitliches Verständnis von der guten Ordnung eines Staates in Frankreich ( Epfendorf: Bibliotheca Academica Verlag, 2003)."
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Show threadHenrik SchönemannDec 2, 2024
@lucasrappo
"André Holenstein, Frank Konersmann, Joseph Pauser, and Gerhard Sälter, eds., Policey in lokalen Räumen. Ordnungskräfte und Sicherheitspersonal in Gemeinden und Territorien vom Spätmittelalter bis zum frühen 19. Jahrhundert (Frankfurt-am-Main: Vittorio Klosterman, 2002)."
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@lucasrappo
"Philip Rawlings, Policing: A Short History (Uffculme, Devon: Willan Publishing, 2002), provides an accessible introduction to the English-language bibliography."

"Clive Emsley, The English Police: A Political and Social History (London : Longman, 1991, 1996 )."

"Elaine Reynolds, Before the Bobbies, The Night Watch and Police Reform in Metropolitan London, 1720-1830 (London: Macmillan Press, 1998)."

Show threadLucas RappoDec 2, 2024
@lavaeolus I was about to mention Holensteins book for Gernany.