Randahl FinkDec 1, 2024

You are making my day! โ™ฅ๏ธ

After sharing my new presentation about information warfare across all platforms, it is clear Mastodon is number one. Among the external viewersโ€ฆ

31 percent are from Mastodon
3 percent are from Bluesky
2 percent are from Facebook
0 percent are from Threads

What you see above is the difference between unhindered interaction, and algorithmic suppression. I am fully convinced, the Threads content algorithm suppresses links to YouTube, to keep users in the fold.

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Show threadNemo Dalakah
@randahl bluesky is beating Mastodon... The Mastodon users interface is not user friendly and I won't blame Mastodon... Mastodon has no revenue model and no money to spend on features..
Dec 1, 2024 at 1:56pmMastodon for Android
Show threadRandahl FinkDec 1, 2024
@nemo55 I strongly disagree with that. I use the @ivory app, and it works a lot better than Bluesky. It has statistics built in, it works on iPad, it is more stable, etc., etc.
Show threadNemo DalakahDec 1, 2024
@randahl @ivory Bluesky is attracting more users than Mastodon. Mastodon faces scaling challenges, has no full-time employees, lacks regular updates and new features, and doesnโ€™t have a revenue model. As a result, Mastodon struggles to compete with X or Threads, leaving Bluesky as the likely contender. ๐Ÿ˜Ž
Show threadikuturso ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บDec 1, 2024

@nemo55 I'm sure there are some things they do better but overall not so sure it's them currently getting a lot of registrations is the result of people being more impressed by the features.

The hype cycle has switched between different platforms constantly and BS just happened to be the one in vogue when Musk did a particularly disgusting series of moves and a lot of people finally took notice. Most of those people never even tried Mastodon.

I also don't think it necessarily lasts.

@randahl

Show threadikuturso ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บDec 1, 2024
@nemo55 there's also some significant issues with Bluesky. I doubt many users will care about the nonexsistent decentralization much just like they never gave it much though with Xitter but the moderation system is a bit of a dumpster fire over there even though they do have some interesting ideas.
Show threadNemo DalakahDec 1, 2024
@ikuturso I have both Mastodon and bluesky accounts.. i had an x account... Bluesky feels like more twitter and simplistic users interface.. they have big plans and goals for the future .. I don't know about Mastodon...I recently joined Mastodon..no revenue generation is a big negative for Mastodon...
Show threadikuturso ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บDec 1, 2024

@nemo55 lack of revenue generation is a negative for you as a user? It means things like no ads, not trying to gather as much information as possible about me, letting people use APIs without trying to lock you in etc. It's a huge plus in my book.

Right now you're not seeing what revenue generation will truly mean for Bluesky because they're still living off the VC money. The day they will have to pay it back is fast approaching.

Show threadmarkDec 1, 2024

@ikuturso @nemo55 we are still watching the subsidize the user phase. Once enough people are there and somewhat locked in, then time to bring in advertisers with too good to be true deals.

When both sides are present, enshittify .

It's a really boring business plan

Show threadarrbeeDec 1, 2024
@nemo55 @randahl @ivory
The Bluesky approach requires anyone running a server to make an open-ended commitment to supporting ever-increasing storage capacity. It will either remain a centralised service or will depend on corporates to provide distributed servers - which they're unlikely to do without some return. Whether this matters depends on each user's needs and preferences.
Show threadCapricious DayDec 1, 2024
@nemo55 @randahl @ivory yeah but bluesky needs you to trust Jack Dorsey. "Fool me twice"
Show threadzetabetaDec 1, 2024
@capriciousday @nemo55 @randahl @ivory
short version:
jack dorsey is not part of bluesky anymore. still, i don't totally trust bluesky backers.
Show threadSteve PopovichDec 1, 2024
@zetabeta @capriciousday @nemo55 @randahl @ivory especially the crypto bros who are funding it now.
Show threadCapricious DayDec 1, 2024
@zetabeta @nemo55 @randahl @ivory fair point, apparently I'm more out of the loop than I thought. Nevertheless bluesky still stinks of capital
Show threadMacumba MacacaDec 1, 2024
@nemo55 @randahl @ivory all I see is that Bluesky has a bigger advertising budget
Show threadSteve PopovichDec 1, 2024
@nemo55 @randahl @ivory IMO Mastodon not having a revenue model is a plus, not a minus, for it. On platforms where users are a source of revenue, there are incentives to enshittify.
Show threadNemo DalakahDec 1, 2024
@sspopovich @randahl @ivory Itโ€™s a double-edged sword ๐Ÿ˜…. You can say it means no billionaires, but it also means no money for new features and no investment in R&D."
Show threadRoseanna Cunningham ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ๐Ÿ––Dec 1, 2024
@randahl @nemo55 @ivory I agree totally re Ivory. Bluesky looks very messy to me - of course I expect @tapbots is also working on something for them too!
Show threadAndromxda ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ผDec 1, 2024
Btw if anybody is looking for a free, open source app that works on iPhone, iPad and even macOS: Check out @IceCubesApp! I don't use iOS/iPadOS that much, but I really enjoy it on my MacBook. Here's the GitHub link https://github.com/Dimillian/IceCubesApp
GitHub - Dimillian/IceCubesApp: A SwiftUI Mastodon client

A SwiftUI Mastodon client. Contribute to Dimillian/IceCubesApp development by creating an account on GitHub.

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