These two things have little to do with each other. If you love art you’ll find and/or make real art. #art #capitalism

@ChuckCheesman

""Real artists, musicians, and writers aren't valued in society. Arts, music, and literature programs are cut from our schools unless you live in a wealthy school district"."

Don't these two sentences seem at least a little contradictory to you? If wealthy people pay for such programs for their kids...surely they value them.

@AlexanderKingsbury Where money isn’t an issue, where there is excess money in society, society will happily pay for these things and more. The larger institution of public schools where government continues to slash and burn down arts, music, and literature is the issue. Also, in the mainstream marketplace artists aren’t valued as they once were. This banana/duct tape sale is a symptom of horrible economic inequity, not an example of art with universal value.

@ChuckCheesman

My point is simply that the very fact that people can and do pay for these things is pretty strong evidence that they are valuable. People rarely voluntarily buy that which they do not value.

"Also, in the mainstream marketplace artists aren’t valued as they once were."

As measured how?

@AlexanderKingsbury In the mainstream, at least in the USA, it is far more difficult to make a middle class living in the arts than it used to be. I’m in the arts and have been at it for 30+ years. I’m surrounded by musicians, artist, and writers and I know what they’ve gone through. As with any argument, there are exceptions.

@ChuckCheesman

So your evidence is mostly anecdotal? To be clear, there's nothing necessarily wrong with that, I'm just making sure I understand your claims and the basis behind them.

@AlexanderKingsbury I this case, yes anecdotal. I’m a musician, music teacher, and former public school teacher. My entire life has been active in the arts. However, this isn’t a singilar anecdote; it’s easily thousands of connected stories of people from different generations.