I’m being told that the largest Mastodon instance - mastodon.social - is now hiding my profile.

One person telling me it’s because of German obsession with making up antisemitism where there is none.

Anyone who knows my work knows that I platform critical Jewish voices. My MA thesis was on Yiddish & Hebrew, I do memory studies which incl Holocaust studies, and I am co-producing a Jewish podcast by three radical Jews. I’m also a writer for 972mag.

So what’s up Mastodon? Am I too Arab for you?

Does anyone know how we can get a concrete reasons given by the Mastodon.social mods? I want them decent and brave enough to simply state the why.

And if they dare say antisemitism they can expect a very long essay about how weaponising antisemitism has been one of the main tools used by the far right to make threaten both Arab/Muslims and Jews.

And I will demand an apology.

And if my timeline is correct my posts were muted around the time I posted about the ICC arrest warrants
@ayoub I can see your timeline on c.im
@ayoub There is no getting through to mastodon.social. They are just hopeless and will sweep Israeli war crimes under the rug.
@ayoub yup and it got into the explore page
@ayoub Just want to say: even if/when this is restored, an apology is still in order.

@ayoub you should probably write to: [email protected]

Stated under "appeals" here: https://mastodon.social/about

@mszll @ayoub
As they are in the EU, you should make a gdpr subject access request for all your personal data they hold/process
@ayoub
Note however: the point of federation is that instances need not provide justifications for their policies, even the largest instance for the ugliest policies.
@ayoub very sorry that this. has happened to you. I'm Jewish, and experienced at moderation; I took a quick look at your profile and didn't see anything that would warrant your account being silenced, which appears to be what mastodon.social has done.

Here's Eugen Rochko's comment I’ve never seen any misinformation from you, and "Holocaust inversion" is very often used as a weaponized false charge of antisemitism.*

In terms of getting answers, and potentially reversing the decision, Rochko is the owner and CEO of Mastodon gGmbH, which runs mastodon.social (as well as holding the trademarks and copyright of the code). He has reversed moderation mistakes in the past ... very honestly I don't know how likely it is but
here's my reply to him.


* I know you know this, but for anybody else reading this post ...

Many Jews -- including me! -- agree with the
Jerusalem Declaration on Antisemitism, which was developed by a group of scholars in the fields of Holocaust history, Jewish studies, and Middle East studies, and clearly states that "even if contentious, it is not antisemitic, in and of itself, to compare Israel with other historical cases". However, other Jews disagree, and this is a contentious issue within Jewish communities. All that being said, it's not clear that's what's going on in this specific case; Rochko's comment was about their general policy, and on a quick look I didn't actually see anything in Elia's recent posts that really matches this description.
Jon (@[email protected])

@[email protected] This is likely to be a very high profile incident so I think it's really critical for you to look into the specifics of this moderation decision. I'm Jewish, and have done a lot of moderation work related to antisemitism, and when I took a quick look at @[email protected]'s profile I didn't see anything that would be grounds for silencing. So please consider reversing this -- or at the very least it's critical to be transparent about the specific posts that led to this.

Indieweb.Social
Also cc-ing @spore as I don’t know whether this can affect the wider spore instance
@ayoub FWIW, I can see and follow your profile just fine from my instance.

Did you try asking mastodon.social what is up?
@ayoub @spore I logged in to my old m.s. account to check and spore's account wasn't similarly hidden so it's not an instance suspension, it's just an account. Unfortunately not surprised by this, given M.S. I hope you get a reason, a resolution, and an apology

@ayoub

mastodon.social is a hotbed of ziofascists

move to mastodon.world and enjoy free speech

@ayoub yes, mastodon.social is known for silencing any pro-Palestinian voice

@ayoub seems like comparing Nakba to Holocaust (both words mean the same in translation btw) gets you banned on mastodon.social:

https://old.reddit.com/r/Mastodon/comments/1g6iua2/mastodonsocial_is_heavily_censoring_news_about/

There is more evidence, but it's always hard to find because of decentralized and privacy-first nature of Fediverse.

This sucks :/

I don't know when, but I should definitely migrate off mastodon.social

@berdario
It's also just a poorly moderated mess, so it's worth migrating off of regardless.

Well, 2 months later, I still haven't migrated. And since I don't really post that frequently, it's not that important... but I looked into a few different alternatives, based on which instances I see used by people I follow.

I'll write down here some thoughts, so if me (or someone else) will return to try to make this choice later, I won't have to start from scratch

https://tilde.zone/about

> No content illegal in Germany

Yeah, no thanks.

https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2024/1/7/why-is-germany-so-viciously-anti-palestinian

Their current society is deeply sick, and it's not only because of the AfD

https://xcancel.com/GMomurder/status/1854656030405537868

Their "Green" foreign minister also argued in favour of bombing civilians in Palestine

https://xcancel.com/Tarek_Bae/status/1845921059251581161

To clarify, it's not like I want to post stuff that would be illegal, but their laws have been weaponised against minorities, and while I understand that...

tilde.zone

mastodon instance of the tildeverse, a collection of small public access *nix systems for collaboration, creativity, and socializing. a proud part of the small internet.

Mastodon hosted on tilde.zone

...an instance moderator cannot ignore the laws of the place where they live or of where their server is hosted, when making a choice we should be aware of which jurisdictions have been more or less heavy handed in respect to certain issues.

Next one: spore.social they seem to be mostly focused on climate issues, while that's a worthy cause, it's not something that I'd dedicate to (we first need to switch our economies' mode of production, for a better chance to fix climate)

https://spore.social/about

This one seems to be mostly ok, they use a Fediblock, but they don't point out *which* Fediblock they use (there's not a single one anymore).

OTOH,

> We do not allow [...] misinformation, disinformation, and state-sponsored propaganda.

~Given what I see on their /explore page, ...~

PS: I later realised that the /explore page seem very similar across several instances, and shows content across all instances (not necessarily boosted there), so disregard this bit

Spore by Project Mushroom

A community platform for justice and action.

Mastodon hosted on spore.social

https://social.treehouse.systems/about

I quite liked this one, but I'll have to keep looking:

> User behavior and content are required to comply with US federal laws and the Revised Code of Washington

Treehouse Mastodon

A community of friends mostly surviving in the technology industry. If you sign up, please provide a Twitter, GitHub, or personal blog or website link for us to get to know you better.

Mastodon hosted on treehouse.systems

https://tldr.nettime.org/about

I quite like this one. Lots of posts I cannot understand without translation.

It's run by an association which has been around for quite a while, so it also gives me more confidence that it would last longer than instances maintained by lone volunteers.

Uses Glitch-Soc

tldr.nettime

tldr.nettime is an instance for artists, researchers, and activists interested in exploring the intersections of technology, culture, and politics.

Mastodon hosted on tldr.nettime.org

https://social.coop/about

Provided by a cooperative with a clear CoC, funding mechanism, etc.

This gives me the most confidence that the instance wouldn't disappear suddenly. If I were confident that I'd post on Mastodon more than I'm currently doing, I 'd be very keen on joining the coop (which is a pre-requisite to get an account there).

Uses plain Mastodon.

social.coop

A Fediverse instance for people interested in cooperative and collective projects. If you are interested in joining our community, please apply at https://wiki.social.coop/wiki/Registration_form

Mastodon hosted on social.coop

https://toots.matapacos.dog/about

Of the ones mentioned until now, this is the one that I jibe with the most. Highlights from their rules:

> We do not reject violence on principle. Our adversaries will not be pacified by rhetoric. Be mindful about the legal implications of what you say though. Explicit threats against living people and organizations will be removed

> Don't get arrested. Don't get me arrested. 😎

OTOH, of all instances mentioned here, it's also the smallest.

Uses Hometown

Matapacos.dog - Microblogging for Sickos

This instance is intended to be a non-sectarian space for leftist discussion, along the lines of hexbear.net (no affiliation), but in a federated microblogging format.

Hometown hosted on matapacos.dog

One last thing, since I mentioned the concept of legal responsibility...

I checked where the last 3 Mastodon instances I mentioned (plus the Lemmy instance that I just joined) are hosted, and the places (in random order) are:

- Canada
- Norway
- Finland
- Finland

Make of that what you will

@ayoub The German authorities, and a whole lot of Germans, even some calling themselves antifascist, have a very twisted image of the post WWII world. And of the past I might add. They focus on one thing, ignoring all other Nazi victims, or even damaging their memory over and over, and are blind to what happens in the world today. It's almost funny to see a German so called antifa interact with anti Zionist Israelis, (or with me for that matter) they cannot find their baring.
@Libby_ yeah I complain about that on this site too, but what I want from this specifically is for the mod(s) who made that decision to clearly state why. If I broke a German law I want to know which post(s) did that. Otherwise I’ll have to conclude it’s because of my background.
@ayoub the instance is heavily involved with Meta Threads. I doubt they will oblige you with an explanation. @Libby_
@ayoub they owe you that, at least.

@ayoub @Libby_
It's basically because >any< criticism is antisemitism (hm, I guess the concept of Nibelungentreue might fit well), even if you are jewish yourself. You can see the effect of it in german/dach-region spaces like r/de quite well, where accusations of being pro-Hamas or antisemitic get thrown around quickly on related topics.

I only got german sources, but:
News with example: https://www.deutschlandfunk.de/antisemitismus-resolution-bundestag-israel-meinung-100.html
which referes to this: https://www.bundestag.de/presse/hib/kurzmeldungen-1028310
Hope that helps ^^

Antisemitismus-Resolution: Der Bundestag ist auf einem Irrweg

Die Antisemitismus-Resolution, ist für zahlreiche Israelis ein Hohn. Kritik am Handeln der israelischen Regierung soll als antisemitisch gebrandmarkt werden.

Deutschlandfunk
@Nachtherz
But respect to mastodon.social it's an invent.
@ayoub @Libby_
@karlggestd @Nachtherz @ayoub you are correct in that. But, if you are forced to make decisions based on, what can in the least be considered dodgy legislation (and no, we don't want the Linksunten Indymedia scenario to happen to mastodon.social) you owe your users - who might not be familiar with the restrictive German anti-leftist, repressive (mis)use of anti-nazi legislation - an explanation as to why you are forced to block them. Preferably individually, or at least in a public statement.
@Libby_ @Nachtherz @ayoub But that's not the case. Even if it was true that it was not accessible for a handful of hours because it was under moderation, a simple search on mastodon.social is enough to find out whether that topic of conversation is being avoided or not. It's pretty simple.
@karlggestd @Nachtherz @ayoub Good to see you elaborate a little on your previous post. It lacked a bit of context. We didn't know what you know. And it seems the account was indeed under moderation for a while without providing an explanation. I understand it is a tough job, and very time consuming, so yes, respect for the mods. But it is stressful for people on the other end if accounts gets suspended, even if only temporarily, for assessment reasons, without explanation.

@Libby_
Because he is not from mastodon.social. Different instances has different rules, that's the idea.

And that's in the case that was true.
@Nachtherz @ayoub

@karlggestd @Nachtherz @ayoub Ah, OK, I get that. I suppose that would require too much work. Still get the stress it causes too, but I guess we will have to live with that. Thanks.
@Libby_ @ayoub how long can the modern Israeli state - largely run by US immigrants and their descendants with no relation to the Holocaust victims - use the «criticism is antisemitic» shield? Breaking international conventions with impunity…

@ayoub This is highly disturbing and alarming. How did you find out? Did someone with a mastodon.social account notify you?

Edit: to verify you can simply go there and search for the profile https://mastodon.social

Contrary to other reports, to me it still appears muted:

Nik 🍉 (@[email protected])

Attached: 1 image The moderators of mastodon social continue to silence pro-Palestinian accounts, this time @[email protected] Mastodon doesn't feel like the effective and reliable communications platform you proclaimed a few days ago, @[email protected] #Palestine #Mastodon

Mastodon
@bhaug @ayoub also you can check yourself by visiting visiting https://mastodon.social and typing @[email protected] into search (if you're not logged in there)

@ayoub Just ask by email [email protected] , why mastodon.social has hidden your profile. There must be reasons and usually the moderators of mastodon.social take wise decisions. I can't tell you if this was right in your case, but no one's profile was hidden and no one was silenced without reason. These statements are untrue about #mastodon.social: "silencing any pro-Palestinian voice" and "a hotbed of ziofascists".

@Libby_
@Captain_Jack_Sparrow
@cybertailor
@bhaug
@Mastodon

@GerryT @ayoub @Libby_ @cybertailor @bhaug @Mastodon

They're not untrue at all, I went through this, had my account suspended -and a final warning lol - on mastodon.social for criticising the israeli genocide of Gaza, and was forced to move to another instance (mastodon.world) where I use the same language and tone and have recieved exactly zero warnings. I use words like ziofascist and nazinyahu, but IMHO they are warranted, israel is a zionazi terrorist apartheid state. I can say that now.

@ayoub mastodon.social, the instance that is largely derided as "unmoderated" for a lot of reasons... and when they do decide to moderate, their decision is to... silence you.

I hate this.

@ayoub

Works for me. Hopefully restored.