Dan Hon

The secession is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed.

Such a flagrant disregard for the rule of law from the incoming administration is a symptom of the fact that the union has broken, and nobody -- one particular bloc in particular -- wants to face that at all.

Nov 21, 2024 at 7:05pmWeb
Show threadDan HonNov 21, 2024

The polite gentlemens' truce following the civil war is broken. If you keep trying to act like a polite gentleman that the compact and union are still agreed upon, well.

Thanks for fucking us over by trying super hard to ignore reality.

The “so what are you gonna do? stop us?” attitude to the rule of law is the sign that the compact's over.

*Especially* with repeated failure and reluctance to enforce the agreement.

Show threadDan HonNov 21, 2024

I don't want "the Democrats" to flail about trying to figure out "how to win the next election”.

I want to see someone, anyone, figure out "what do you do next when the union has broken?”

This administration and by extension the entire GOP -- who won! -- have already seceded.

Show threadDan HonNov 21, 2024

I don't think the thing to do is to try to win the next election.

Start building what's next.

Show threadmadopalNov 21, 2024
@danhon In the meantime, it'd really help if SOMEONE in the Fourth Estate pivoted from horse race coverage/press conferences to real advice for those of us on the ground trying to figure out how to weather the storm until what's next comes.
Show threadDan HonNov 21, 2024
@madopal Mainstream media [sic] are invested in the game still being played and the compact still being in effect.
Show threadmadopalNov 21, 2024

@danhon Yep, that's readily apparent.

Trying to figure out how they'll react when the first of them loses their seat at the table and everyone else has to pretend it didn't happen or they lose their seats.

Show threadmadopalNov 21, 2024
@danhon I guess we've still got Teen Vogue for the moment.
Show threadBrambleBearGrrraulingNov 21, 2024

@madopal @danhon

You might check out @itsgoingdown or thought it was kolektiva, will edit-so actually, it is @igd_news if I typed it right

https://itsgoingdown.org/dont-just-do-nothing-20-things-you-can-do-to-counter-fascism/

Don’t Just Do Nothing: 20 Things You Can Do to Counter Fascism

Jewish anarchists weigh-in on how people can organize and act in the changing terrain. For a zine PDF, go here. You are not obligated to complete the work, but neither are you free to desist from it. —Pirkei Avot (2:21) As Christofascism takes the reins of US power, thereby impacting the whole of this continent...

It's Going Down
Show threadDave VolekNov 21, 2024

@danhon
We could build a new democracy:

https://tiereddemocraticgovernance.org/blog_details.php?blog_cat_id=30&id=12

:: TDG :: Blog

Show threadIrenes (many)Nov 25, 2024
@danhon that's our view as well. build the social structures that we want to have after the war, and also the ones that will help us survive it.
Show threadIrenes (many)Nov 25, 2024
@danhon we want to note that this is explicitly outside the job of elected officials, who have taken oaths to uphold the current order. they can't even begin thinking about replacements for that order. your remarks seem to be aware of that, we just point it out because we think a lot of people haven't thought it through.
Show threadJon UdellNov 21, 2024
@danhon We are two countries with irreconcilable differences. I'm ready to file for divorce.
Show threadDan HonNov 21, 2024

@judell It's remarkable it's lasted and worked in this way for this long.

(And acknowledging that it absolutely *hasn't* worked for vast swathes of people, on purpose)

Show threadmhoyeNov 21, 2024

@danhon @judell If you're talking about who it's not working for, it's worth looking at the whole picture:

23% Harris (won popular vote, lost electoral college)
23% Trump (lost popular vote, won electoral college)
<1% voted other
26% could vote but didn't
28% ineligible to vote

That's not two countries with irreconcilable differences, that's one country that's _being_ parted out by policy and policy-level actors.

Show threadDan HonNov 21, 2024

@mhoye @judell It's demonstrably not working for people of color.

When I say "not working”, I mean in the very, very expansive sense.

Show threadJon UdellNov 21, 2024
@mhoye @danhon @mhoye True. Most people want the same things for themselves and their families. That's the ground truth we cannot see because those actors have torn apart the fabric of shared reality. I would like to believe it can be put back together, but meawhile it feels like we are effectively two different countries.
Show threadBill SeitzNov 21, 2024
@danhon https://toolsforthought.social/@billseitz/111352264152878685
Bill Seitz (@[email protected])

The best time to move North was 160 years ago. The 2nd best time is now. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/51/Undergroundrailroadsmall2.jpg/600px-Undergroundrailroadsmall2.jpg

Tools For Thought Rocks!
Show threadBill SeitzNov 21, 2024
@danhon https://toolsforthought.social/@billseitz/113353561180200735
Bill Seitz (@[email protected])

looking forward to traveling to another jewel of the Urban Archipelago by dirigible. http://webseitz.fluxent.com/wiki/UrbanArchipelago (can you believe that essay is from 20yrs ago!?!?)

Tools For Thought Rocks!
Show threadmkbNov 25, 2024
@danhon I heard someone express it as “Democrats are bringing handshakes to a gun fight.”