HellsBelle

Memory is stored in cells throughout the body, not just the brain

https://sh.itjust.works/post/28422533

Memory is stored in cells throughout the body, not just the brain - sh.itjust.works

In this study, the scientists simulated the process of spaced learning by examining two types of non-brain human cells — one from nerve tissue and one from kidney tissue — in a laboratory setting. These cells were exposed to varying patterns of chemical signals, akin to the exposure of brain cells to neurotransmitter patterns when we learn new information. The intriguing part? These non-brain cells also switched on a “memory gene” – the same gene that brain cells activate when they detect information patterns and reorganize their connections to form memories.

Nov 21, 2024 at 3:21pmWeb
Show threadHellsBelleNov 21, 2024
I was wondering if there is a link between cellular memory and how trauma is encoded into DNA?
Show threadbaldturkeylegNov 21, 2024
So hold on a minute - does this mean there might be some truth to the whole “eat your fallen enemy to gain experience” thing? That’s wild.
Show threadoriginaluciferNov 21, 2024

naw. its more like the nerve pathways through the body also have their own node-weighting long before they get to the brain. those are used in process sometimes allowing for memory-like function

its still a generated system that you cant just eat

Show threadNocturnalMorningNov 21, 2024
Are you sure I can’t eat it? We should test this… for science.
Show threadLibbNov 21, 2024

Are you sure I can’t eat it? We should test this… for science.

The question then being: would it still be considered science if it’s not eaten raw but cooked and, say, accompanied with some wine?

Show threadHellsBelleNov 21, 2024
And fava beans.
Show threadOptionalNov 21, 2024
Doesn’t count. They have to be slain in honorable battle.
Show threadHellsBelleNov 22, 2024
So being boiled to death doesn’t count?
Show threadKowowowNov 21, 2024
Closer to that whole organ transplant affecting someone’s personality I guess
Show threadjmillerNov 21, 2024
Eating a dictionary to improve your vocabulary would be equally effective to that theory, and for many of the same reasons. (As far as information transfer is concerned)
Show threadrowrowrowyourboatNov 21, 2024

No, because you’re eating the flesh, so you’re digesting it.

This is more relevant to organ transplants.

Apparently, it’s a known phenomenon that some organ transplant recipients seem to inherit some traits and even memories of organ donors.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38694651/

Beyond the Pump: A Narrative Study Exploring Heart Memory - PubMed

The field of organ transplantation, particularly heart transplantation, has brought to light interesting phenomena challenging traditional understandings of memory, identity, and consciousness. Studies indicate that heart transplant recipients may exhibit preferences, emotions, and memories resembli …

PubMed
Show threadTʜᴇʀᴀᴘʏGⒶʀʏ⁽ᵗʰᵉʸ‘ᵗʰᵉᵐ⁾Nov 21, 2024

Wow, these examples are so cool.

Food Preferences:

  • developed aversion to meat after receiving a heart from a vegetarian donor.
  • experienced nausea after meals post-transplant from a donor with irregular eating habits.
  • developed a taste for green peppers and chicken nuggets, foods favored by her donor.

Musical Preferences:

  • began enjoying loud music post-transplant.
  • developed a love for music after receiving a heart from a musician.
  • started appreciating classical music, previously disliked, after transplant.

Sexual Preferences:

  • Male recipient of a heart from a lesbian artist experienced heightened desire toward women.
  • Lesbian recipient of a heterosexual woman’s heart found attraction to men.

Other Preferences and Aversions:

  • Landscape artist’s heart recipient developed interest in art.
  • Dancer’s heart recipient shifted color preferences to cooler tones.
  • Fear of water developed post-transplant from drowning victim.
Show threadMetostopholesNov 21, 2024
Memory is stored in the balls
Show threaddisguy_ovaheaNov 21, 2024
Just to recap, sperm, pee, microplastics, and memories are stored in the balls? Am I missing anything? I can’t remember. Maybe my balls are too full of microplastics to recall.
Show threadIMNOTCRAZYINSTITUTIONNov 21, 2024
I keep cement in mine
Show threadmoosetwinNov 21, 2024
Mine are filled with brass
Show threadMinnesotaGoddamNov 22, 2024
Live bees here
Show threadpotoooooooo ✅️Nov 22, 2024
Yukon gold potatoes.
Show threadSabataNov 21, 2024
I’m sure you could fit a few dollars in loose change in there to.
Show threadFoshezeNov 21, 2024
You forgot about the wolves.
Show threadatlasNov 21, 2024
i forgot i put those there to control the deer population
Show threadjust_another_personNov 21, 2024
The Soul is also stored in the balls.
Show threaddisguy_ovaheaNov 21, 2024
Do you think that’s why we often tell god that we’re cumming?
Show threadmasterofn001Nov 21, 2024
Data.
Show threadchingaderaNov 21, 2024
Urine is not stored in the balls. I’m a doctor you can trust me on this
Show threaddisguy_ovaheaNov 21, 2024

Even if you weren’t a doctor I’d agree with you. I was taught it’s stored in the bladder in ninth grade. Pretty sure that continues throughout your adult life. Lol

knowyourmeme.com/…/pee-is-stored-in-the-balls

Pee Is Stored in the Balls | Know Your Meme

Pee Is Stored in the Balls is a satirical factoid falsely claiming that men hold urine within their testicles.

Know Your Meme
Show threadchingaderaNov 22, 2024
I thought you were referencing the conversation on Reddit or Twitter or something where someone had said “I’m a doctor, pee is definitely not stored in the balls” and then a really long argument ensued where the dude was pretty adamant that pee is stored in the balls. I just wanted to be the Dr
Show threadAdkinsValleyStCoupleNov 22, 2024
If you’re a doctor, then I’m a nun :)
Show threadthe post of tom joadNov 21, 2024
Thanks i actually needed this comment to be here.
Show thread100_kg_90_de_belinNov 22, 2024
Still better that “pee is stored in the brain”
Show threadphxNov 22, 2024
Well some species do potentially have “genetic memories” so maybe some stuff actually could be
Show threadKalciferNov 23, 2024
😆
Show threadKorkkiNov 21, 2024
As if haven’t know for a century that immune system has the ability to both form memories and problem solve, that rivals the brain. The body being able to adapt to external stimuli isn’t anything groundbreaking.
Show threadoce 🐆Nov 21, 2024
I wonder if that contributes to “muscle memory”.
Show threadcatloafNov 21, 2024
No, “muscle memory” is the nickname for practiced motions.
Show threadoce 🐆Nov 21, 2024
I know it is a nickname, I am wondering if this could contribute.
Show threadOptionalNov 21, 2024
Maybe in the sense that memories are not required to be in the brain to - have an output?
Show threadABCDENov 21, 2024

in a laboratory setting.

Show threadEndymion_MallornNov 21, 2024
Technically, a handgun also kills cancer in vivo. The problem is the cost to the host body.
Show threadbizarrolandNov 21, 2024

Okay but what you're saying is if I hired a good enough marksman to shoot the cancer out of my body without killing me then that's a good thing right?

I mean, that's basically what we do with gamma radiation and chemotherapy, just a little bit more ballistic, right?

Show threadEndymion_MallornNov 21, 2024
Exactly! The only difference is that those use very tiny bullets.
Show threadLizNov 22, 2024
Chemo only applies if it’s doped with a radionuclide, otherwise it’s just regular poison.
Show threadLiomeNov 21, 2024
Do we need to format our kidneys before becoming a donor now?
Show threadAtelopus-zetekiNov 21, 2024

Maybe. There are numerous reports of people having changes in personality after organ transplants.

Personality changes following heart transplantation: The role of cellular memory
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31739081/

https://www.sciencealert.com/eerie-personality-changes-sometimes-happen-after-organ-transplants

Personality changes following heart transplantation: The role of cellular memory - PubMed

Personality changes following heart transplantation, which have been reported for decades, include accounts of recipients acquiring the personality characteristics of their donor. Four categories of personality changes are discussed in this article: (1) changes in preferences, (2) alterations in emo …

PubMed
Show threadDrunemetonNov 21, 2024
Damn, that’s interesting!
Show threadLumisalNov 22, 2024

To be fair, I think anyone going through something as traumatic as basically being out into stasis and having they’re heart cut out and and then having one reattached would change a bit simply because of the process.

I mean, you don’t keep stepping on Lego bricks barefoot after you’ve done so, and we expect people who have had a heart ripped out and then another one reinserted to act the same?..

Show threadRestrictedAccountNov 22, 2024
Many stories like this from fecal exchanges (trans-poo-sions)
Show threadAtelopus-zetekiNov 22, 2024
Yes, that is also true. Many things make up the mind, and changing a major input, e.g. the microbiota that make a particular mix of short chain fatty acids and other neuro effective compounds, is going to change the cognitive outputs.
Show threadCataphractNov 22, 2024

You really should affix the possible reasoning to your comment up the chain

changing a major input, e.g. the microbiota that make a particular mix of short chain fatty acids and other neuro effective compounds, is going to change the cognitive outputs.

This post is wildly running into speculation and I fear several users are taking the wrong implications that “conscious memory” is scientifically being validated as stored in the bodies several organs.

Show threadMelatoninNov 21, 2024

It seem like they’re just saying kidneys remember kidney stuff, pancreas is just remember pancreas stuff, etc etc.

It’s not like your kidney remembers Aunt Jean has a mole on her nose.

Show threadpartial_accumenNov 21, 2024
There is another body of research that deals with a person’s behavior can be heavily influence by endocrine actions. Organs can affect current endocrine responses. So there is a suggestion here that your kidney may not remember the Aunt Jean has a mole, it may remember why it releases certain hormones which can effect how you behave.
Show threadMinnesotaGoddamNov 22, 2024
I dunno. We (both my wife and I) can and have had long conversations with my gut (when there’s a rumbly in my tumbly you can hear it across a crowded room) and my gut seems to remember shit. It also has a strange fascination with cheese.
Show threadMelatoninNov 22, 2024
That sounds like a fun life/wife.
Show threadMinnesotaGoddamNov 23, 2024
I am a very lucky person, and she is
Show threadtroedNov 21, 2024

There are many stories on how the receiver of a transplant has felt themselves being "changed", sometimes in ways that would remind people of the donor.

https://www.mdpi.com/2673-3943/5/1/2

Personality Changes Associated with Organ Transplants

Personality changes have been reported following organ transplantation. Most commonly, such changes have been described among heart transplant recipients. We set out to examine whether personality changes occur following organ transplantation, and specifically, what types of changes occur among heart transplant recipients compared to other organ recipients. A cross-sectional study was conducted in which 47 participants (23 heart recipients and 24 other organ recipients) completed an online survey. In this study, 89% of all transplant recipients reported personality changes after undergoing transplant surgery, which was similar for heart and other organ recipients. The only personality change that differed between heart and other organ recipients and that achieved statistical significance was a change in physical attributes. Differences in other types of personality changes were observed between these groups but the number of participants in each group was too small to achieve statistical significance. Overall, the similarities between the two groups suggest heart transplant recipients may not be unique in their experience of personality changes following transplantation, but instead such changes may occur following the transplantation of any organ. With the exception of physical attributes, the types of personality changes reported were similar between the two groups. These finding indicate that heart transplant recipients are not unique in their reported experience of personality changes following organ transplantation. Further studies are needed to deepen our understanding of what causes these personality changes.

MDPI
Show threadFundMECFSNov 21, 2024
MDPI is like the lowest quality slop journal. Like anything gets peer reviewed in that thing.
Show threadRivalarrivalNov 21, 2024
Is there an element of literality to the term “muscle memory”?
Show threadSeptimaeusNov 21, 2024

Yes, insofar as many reflexive actions, enervation and fiber recruitment thresholds respond to training, such that they “remember“ actions you have performed many times before. There are many clusters of nerves throughout the body called ganglia that are responsible for low-latency control of various functions that would entail too much delay when controlled entirely by the brain.

Generally, the minimum input-process-activation turnaround time of the brain is about 4 hz (240-250 ms) which is too slow for many motor functions. But the “co-processing” allowed by the extended nervous system enables the body to, with practice, execute far more rapid and complex action sequences in response to local stimuli. Some actions can even be triggered and completed before a signal makes it to the brain.

Show threadOptionalNov 21, 2024

Generally, the minimum input-process-activation turnaround time of the brain is about 4 hz (240-250 ms) which is too slow for many motor functions. But the “co-processing” allowed by the extended nervous system enables the body to, with practice, execute far more rapid and complex action sequences in response to local stimuli. Some actions can even be triggered and completed before a signal makes it to the brain.

Thank you. For some reason it makes me happy to know that.

Show threadWolferatuNov 21, 2024
I suppose that explains survival instinct