(Pathfinder Society) Questions about the druid's Wild Shape + Polymorph - Lemmy.world
Please note the PFS tag. This needs to be a Rules As Written (RAW) discussion.
When a Druid uses Wild Shape [https://2e.aonprd.com/Spells.aspx?ID=481] they’re
using Polymorph [https://2e.aonprd.com/Traits.aspx?ID=127] to change, let’s say
into an Animal Form [https://2e.aonprd.com/Spells.aspx?ID=10] as an example.
First off Mark Seifter has previously confirmed in a How It’s Played interview
[https://youtu.be/0GI7DSKmNWs] that you can use Handwraps of Mighty Blows
[https://2e.aonprd.com/Equipment.aspx?ID=441] to determine (from Wild Shape),
“If your unarmed attack bonus is higher, you can use it instead.” (With the
caveat that it can’t be the same, but must be at least 1 point higher than the
battle form’s attack modifier.) The Polymorph traits states, “If you take on a
battle form with a polymorph spell, the special statistics can be adjusted only
by circumstance bonuses, status bonuses, and penalties. […] Your gear is
absorbed into you; the constant abilities of your gear still function, but you
can’t activate any items.” (Emphasis is mine.) Please take a moment to look at
Animal Form and note what’s covered under “statistics” (the first bullet list),
and what’s listed under “specific abilities” (the second bullet list). So that
seems very clear that even if Handwraps allows you to use your unarmed attack
bonus, its Item Bonus won’t apply. But I have a few questions about other
things: - What about feats, like Fleet (+5 to your base speed)? - What about
Runes, like Striking or Crushing? - What about magic items, like Goggle of Night
(which grant the sense Darkvision)? (And remembering that magic items change
size to fit the wearer.) - (Plus things I’m sure I’ve not considered, so please
mention them if applicable!) To me it seems that: - The “statistics” mentioned:
AC, Temp. HP, Senses, Listed Strikes*, and Athletics* (*Both have a specifically
mentioned override if your own is higher) cannot be changed unless it’s by a
Circumstance and/or Status Bonus, or a Penalty, since these are specifically
called out. But, - The “specific abilities” mentioned: Speed, Strikes, Damage
can be changed since these are not specifically called out. Does that sound
right? I just rebuild a 5th level character as a Wild Shape Druid and woo boy
this stuff is a lot to wrap your head around. Thanks in advance for sharing your
experience and insight on this matter!
