Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦Since the tankies seem to be coming out again, a reminder:
👉 If Russia stops fighting, there will no longer be a war.
👉 If Ukraine stops fighting, there will no longer be an Ukraine.
enoch_exe_inc@rysiek What kind of tankies would support *either* side of the war?! Most of whom I would call tankies just oppose war, period. And those who aren’t tankies…well, no support for the imperialist proxy war.
I *would* like for Russia to stop the senseless fighting altogether and leave Donbas, Donetsk, and Luhansk, and I do not believe this can be accomplished by throwing more weapons at Ukraine.
"Look I oppose all violence, so even if the bigger stronger bully started the fight, the weaker kid should just stop fighting."
That's very much supporting the bully.
@rysiek @enoch_exe_inc Don’t misrepresent me. I don’t directly oppose the current course of actions, but…it has not significantly changed the situation since a thousand days ago.
It’s scary to see how many “liberals” are so totalitarian that simply expressing a desire not to *prolong* the war is met with petty insults, death threats, and attempts to silence all dissent.
@rysiek @enoch_exe_inc Twenty years ago, it was conservatives and the Iraq War. I’ve always assumed it was an inherent trait of conservatism to be a bloodthirsty warmonger. Now, it turns out liberals are no different.
@enoch_exe_inc it's nice to have this simple, clean division of people into "conservatives" and "liberals". I happen not to identify with either though. Not sure why you keep throwing these terms around.
NeonPurpleStar 
@rysiek @enoch_exe_inc i think it's really telling that the number one priority tankies have, is to antagonise whatever the interpret as "the liberals"
not trump supporters and trump himself who has vowed to kill all palenstinians and build trump hotels in gaza, but instead persistently "the liberals"
a "liberal" in the united states is also bernie sanders who was the most outspoken senator against weapons deliveries to israel, or for instance AOC who was also outspoken
not trump supporters and trump himself who has vowed to kill all palenstinians and build trump hotels in gaza, but instead persistently "the liberals"
a "liberal" in the united states is also bernie sanders who was the most outspoken senator against weapons deliveries to israel, or for instance AOC who was also outspoken
@NeonPurpleStar @enoch_exe_inc @rysiek Bernie Sanders and AOC are Social Democrats, a position I don’t agree with as much as I used to, but it’s one I’ll tolerate because it’s by far the most realistic “better option” the United States can become.
That said, there aren’t very many of them. In fact, those two are the only ones that come to mind. Does this strike you as a bit of a problem when it comes to affecting change?
@enoch_exe_inc @rysiek i am a social democrat, and if the choice is between the current system and whatever lenin inspired autocratic regime you want, i will take arms and defend the current system
@NeonPurpleStar @enoch_exe_inc @rysiek I am anarchist, not a communist, and I will fight your defence of your still-capitalist social democracy. That’s why I drew the distinction between myself and the tankies. There is much we agree about—and I certainly tolerate them far more than I tolerate non-leftists—but support Marxist-Leninism I will not.